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Dems Proposing Bill Of Attainder On AIG Bonus Babies?
FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/17/2009 9:49:20 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed.” Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3

“The $165 million in bonuses set to go to American International Group executives would be taxed at 100 percent under a new bill introduced Tuesday in the House. The sponsor of the new bill, Rep. Steve Israel (D-Huntington), said Tuesday that “if we can’t kill the bonuses, we’ll tax the bonuses.” — Newsday, March 17, 2009

Weren’t the Dems the ones always complaining about the supposed trampling of constitutional rights by the Bush administration?

But now that they’re in power, looks like they won’t hesitate to junk the Constitution for purposes of political grandstanding. No politician can go wrong by beating his chest over the AIG bonuses. Rep. Steve Israel (D-NY) and some of his colleagues want to take things further: imposing a 100% tax on the bonuses granted to AIG employees.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aig; billofattainder; steveisrael; taxes

1 posted on 03/17/2009 9:49:21 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Bill of attainder ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 03/17/2009 9:50:00 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Dim-o-crats trying to repair the AIG mess . . . If the current economical book of errors wasn’t so serious, this particular chapter would be downright funny.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 9:55:25 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The government is trying to create discrimination against AIG for the “rich” employees who were working there while some of their colleagues screwed up in getting the company way too far into CDS (credit-default swaps) that sunk a once great company. These employees getting bonuses have lost all of their 401k’s (for many this was considerable), stock savings and retirements. The bonuses were paid for retention (continuing to work there to keep the company going) as part of a contract to keep the company afloat while it works out its issues and gets more taxpayer dollars.

Now that they have taken the retention bonuses, many of these employees will leave AIG. I hope the federal government starts developing some insurance expertise as they will need to run AIG to be able to hopefully recoup some of the bailout money that has been lent to AIG.

The federal government has no business sticking its nose in and demonizing retention bonuses. They should stick their nose back somewhere the sun doesn’t shine.


4 posted on 03/17/2009 10:03:03 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Bill Clinton passed a retroactive tax law. Why can’t The Messiah?


5 posted on 03/17/2009 10:09:41 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed.”

This is not the case... Tax law very often changes in the middle of the year, and it effects moneys earned for that year, even moneys earned before the change.


6 posted on 03/17/2009 10:09:50 AM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: kevinm13
While the Senate was constructing the $787 billion stimulus last month, Dodd added an executive-compensation restriction to the bill. That amendment provides an “exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009” -- which exempts the very AIG bonuses Dodd and others are now seeking to tax. The amendment made it into the final version of the bill, and is law. Separately, Sen. Dodd was AIG’s largest single recipient of campaign donations during the 2008 election cycle with $103,100, according to opensecrets.org. Dodd’s office did not immediately return a request for comment

Didn't Zero read line by line like he said he was going to do?

7 posted on 03/17/2009 10:10:07 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

We don’t need no steenking constitution.


8 posted on 03/17/2009 10:13:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Ain’t that the truth.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 10:16:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: scooby321
I didn't think I could get anymore disgusted with these guys.

I was wrong.

10 posted on 03/17/2009 10:17:54 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: babygene

I’m not focusing on the ex post facto nature but on the bill of attainder—that it singles out a group of individuals for punishment.


11 posted on 03/17/2009 10:18:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“I’m not focusing on the ex post facto nature but on the bill of attainder—that it singles out a group of individuals for punishment.”

This is also done all the time. i.e.; tobacco taxes, fuel taxes, death taxes, tax penalties for early withdraw from IRS’s... The list goes on and on.


12 posted on 03/17/2009 10:31:47 AM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: scooby321

He did go line by line through the federal budget but the only thing he could find to cut is the dept. of defense. They get a ten percent cut across the board and more to come.


13 posted on 03/17/2009 10:42:17 AM PDT by cdpap
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t agree with the bonuses that people at AIG got, but was it legal? If it was, then Congress is to blame, not the people that got the bonuses.


14 posted on 03/17/2009 10:44:52 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

EX POST FACTO laws are PERFECTLY legal in non-criminal cases, the US Supremes has ALREADY ruled. Historically, Ex Post Facto laws are most often used in tax law and gun control law situations.


15 posted on 03/17/2009 11:00:37 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

I’m focusing on the bill of attainder, not the ex post facto, nature of the law. It would single out a group of individuals for punishment.


16 posted on 03/17/2009 11:14:01 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

TRUE! Just like white Americans were singled out for punishment by the “Affirmative Action” Bills of Attainder!


17 posted on 03/17/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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