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Hospital patients 'left in agony'
ITN News ^ | March 17, 2009 | n/a

Posted on 03/17/2009 11:23:58 AM PDT by smokingfrog

Patients were allegedly left screaming in pain and drinking from flower vases on a nightmare hospital ward.

Between 400 and 1,200 more people died than would have been expected at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust over three years, a damning Healthcare Commission report said.

The watchdog's investigation found inadequately trained staff who were too few in number, junior doctors left alone in charge at night and patients left without food, drink or medication as their operations were repeatedly cancelled.

Patients were left in pain or forced to sit in soiled bedding for hours at a time and were not given their regular medication, the Commission heard.

Receptionists with no medical training were expected to assess patients coming in to A&E, some of whom needed urgent care.

Sir Bruce Keogh, medical director of the NHS, said there had been a "gross and terrible breach" of patients' trust and a "complete failure of leadership".

The Healthcare Commission's chairman Sir Ian Kennedy said the investigation followed concerns about a higher than normal death rate at the Trust, which senior managers could not explain.

He said: "The resulting report is a shocking story. Our report tells a story of appalling standards of care and chaotic systems for looking after patients. These are words I have not previously used in any report.

"There were inadequacies in almost every stage of caring for patients. There was no doubt that patients will have suffered and some of them will have died as a result."

Julie Bailey, 47, was so concerned about the care being given to her 86-year-old mother Bella at Stafford Hospital that she and her relatives slept in a chair at her bedside for eight weeks.

She said: "We saw patients drinking out of...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; socialism; socialistmedicine; socializedmedicine; uk
UK Socialized medicine. Sounds lovely.
1 posted on 03/17/2009 11:23:58 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Obamacare coming to a town near you.


2 posted on 03/17/2009 11:25:42 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: smokingfrog

But ... but ... everyone has health care. Such as it is.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 11:26:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: smokingfrog
My Daughter lost her left arm to socialist medicine.

Folks in Socialist Countries pray that we don't get it, because they come here when they can't get care.

4 posted on 03/17/2009 11:26:39 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: smokingfrog
Perfect fodder for the GOP! Instead....crickets

As usual.

5 posted on 03/17/2009 11:27:45 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: smokingfrog

coming soon to a hospital near you! can this happen here? Can we be stupid enough to do this to ourselves? (repeat after me)

Yes, we can!


6 posted on 03/17/2009 11:28:32 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: smokingfrog

Daschle says we should just learn to accept it.

It really isn’t fair to expect much care after our prime working/childbearing years.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 11:43:57 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: smokingfrog

Complete Mainstream Media News blackout (coordinated by online meeting space JournoList) of this and all other factual reporting of socialist medical “care.”


8 posted on 03/17/2009 11:49:49 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

ping


10 posted on 03/17/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Cuba, too! We are so far behind!
11 posted on 03/17/2009 11:58:15 AM PDT by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: FormerACLUmember

And what is our Republican leadership doing? Making sure that every one knows that Russ Limbaugh in NOT in charge, stuffing earmarking into spending plan, complaining that it is not fair the way that they are being treated by . . . everyone.


12 posted on 03/17/2009 11:58:38 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really! It's time; NOW)
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To: smokingfrog
Happens right here in the US where hospitals are forced to take drug addicts and illegals as inpatients. Will happen to ALL US hospitals after ObamaCare (tm) hits.
13 posted on 03/17/2009 12:01:57 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: smokingfrog

Londonistan in all its glory - the idol of the liberal American left.


14 posted on 03/17/2009 12:06:15 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: smokingfrog

Lawyers here would never allow that to go unchallenged in court. The hospitals would be afraid of multi-million lawsuits.


15 posted on 03/17/2009 12:07:31 PM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist and a dottering old fool.)
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To: dangerdoc
Julie Bailey, 47, was so concerned about the care being given to her 86-year-old mother Bella at Stafford Hospital that she and her relatives slept in a chair at her bedside for eight weeks.

We did the same thing here in the USA when my 93 year old Grandfather was failing.

Either my mother, my brother, my sister, my aunt, or me was with him 24X7 for three months.

We told the nurses and staff that we were going to be there, that we would not be unreasonable but that if we asked one of them to do something for our grandfather it would be something that NEEDED to be done, that we couldn't do ourselves, and we expected it to be done in a timely manner.

In the hospital this worked well. The nurses and doctors were polite and professional.
You could tell that they appreciated not having to be called every time he got thirsty, or needed help to the bathroom, or needed the bed adjusted, etc.

In the nursing home I had to threaten to make their work life a living hell.
They did call the police on me one time in the nursing home.
My Grandfather was writhing in pain about thirty minutes before his scheduled pain medication.
I went to the desk and asked that they give him SOMETHING for the pain.
The doctor had him on minimum meds and had left standing orders that he be given pain meds "as needed".
They told me that they would give him meds on his schedule and to leave them alone to chat.

I BELLOWED that if they didn't get down there right now I would make their lives a living hell.

They did go at that moment and give my grandfather pain meds - then called the police.

16 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:54 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: smokingfrog

This is the change we can look forward to, wallowing in our own filth and writhing in pain as a government worker anxiously waits for us to shut up and die.

FUBO.


17 posted on 03/17/2009 12:21:34 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failure of Central Planning)
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To: MissEdie

If they were government hospitals, your rights to sue them would be extremely limited.


18 posted on 03/17/2009 12:24:44 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: camle

Its already here, even for paying patients.
I had to intimidate the nurses to get morphine for my burnt daughter; she was literally going crazy with itching from her grafts and, apparently, the nurses were too busy to do basic pain management. And they wouldn’t respond to my wife or the nurse call button.
My wife had to stay with her in the hospital constantly for months to make sure she got proper care. She had to do the diaper changes herself, or the nurses would have left in filth for hours; and we had to buy our own diapers. She had to develop her own care routines to supplement the hospital care (Invest in manuka honey - that stuff is miraculous!). They left staples in my daughter’s head after they sent her home - we had to go back to have them removed.
There were parts of that hospital that were well run, and others that really sucked. I don’t know how different floors in the same hospital can be so different.
I really shudder to think what would have happened if the government had been running that hospital...


19 posted on 03/17/2009 12:36:55 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Little Ray
I had to intimidate the nurses to get morphine for my burnt daughter;

I can't address the rest of your experience, but I can tell you that a good possibility for why your daughter had to go through pain and not get morphine is that so many health care professionals are afraid to properly treat pain due to the War On Drugs. Everyone's afraid if they give someone as much pain medication as they actually need that the DEA will put them in jail. It's a crime, but there's nothing for it.

FWIW - I'm no long haired dope smoking libertarian. It's just that I've seen this before with friends of mine, and I think it's criminal that they can't get the relief they need.

20 posted on 03/17/2009 12:45:16 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: smokingfrog

You think Barack and the libs in Congress would ever get this kind of treatment? They get special care. You think they wouldn’t shut down people who gave their dogs this kind of care?

Yet they want all of us to have this kind of care. and they want to play God and decide who lives and dies based on age and their ‘worth’ to society.

Time to take out the trash in DC.


21 posted on 03/17/2009 12:50:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Just another Joe

So what happened once the police came??


22 posted on 03/17/2009 12:50:46 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Hardastarboard

There are other non-narcotic pain medicines that can be given to patients.


23 posted on 03/17/2009 12:51:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Patriotic1
So what happened once the police came??

They asked me outside and asked me if I was causing a problem.

I told them that the staff were the ones causing a problem, explained the situation to them, and they gave the staff a tongue lashing for calling the police.

You have to realize, this was in a small town of about 400 people.
The police there are not fools and are usually normal folks.

Also, my Grandfather had lived in this town for better than 40 years, was an avid supporter of the police and volunteer fire dept, and was well liked by, almost, the entire community.

24 posted on 03/17/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Secret Agent Man
What are they? Are they effective? Is this a relatively new development? I'm not challenging you, just trying to learn something.

I know ibuprofen can be fairly effective if given in large doses (I believe 1600 mg is the maximum prescription dose), but it can be somewhat hard on the kidneys, if I'm not mistaken. Acetaminophen is fairly effective, but can't be given in large doses like ibuprofen because of the toxic effects on the liver.

25 posted on 03/17/2009 1:01:40 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Me: Socialized healthcare fails every time its tried.
Lib: But it’s Free!
Me: Free, but you won’t get any.
Lib: But it’s Free!


26 posted on 03/17/2009 1:02:58 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They're worried more about how cows are treated at the slaughter house than the medical treatment given human beings.
27 posted on 03/17/2009 1:03:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! P.S. I like jelly beans.)
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To: smokingfrog

Boy, talk about some unappreciative people on Free Republic. After all, isn’t Obama going to offer doctor assisted suicide??!!


28 posted on 03/17/2009 1:09:51 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Boy, talk about some unappreciative people on Free Republic. After all, isn’t Obama going to offer doctor assisted suicide??!!
******
Shame on you! I will be very appreciative that someone will mercifully kill me to get me out of Obama land when I’m to old to be of any use!!(dang..that could be real soon!) ROFLOL


29 posted on 03/17/2009 2:52:14 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: smokingfrog

bump


30 posted on 03/17/2009 4:48:26 PM PDT by lowbridge (It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so - Ronald Reagan)
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To: lowbridge

And yet another case for socialized medicine!


31 posted on 03/17/2009 11:43:47 PM PDT by gman992
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To: Little Ray

as we speak, my wife is in the hospital - she was very nearly gone friday when her heart stopped. fortunately she was already in the hospital when this ocurred, and they were able to save her after a horrifying weekend. She’s onthe mend now, thanks in part to her superior insurance, which she made provision for, and prioritized all her life. if some beauracrat had to second guess her doctor, and the excellent team who did the actual saving,she wouldn’t be here today.


32 posted on 03/18/2009 4:11:20 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


33 posted on 03/18/2009 9:21:53 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Please add me to your Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST. Thanks!


34 posted on 07/31/2009 11:43:39 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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