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Looks like the Occupation will do anything - including an end-run around our elected officials - to disarm us by fiat, the seditious SOB's.


1 posted on 03/17/2009 7:47:09 PM PDT by Viking2002
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More of the same...


2 posted on 03/17/2009 7:51:03 PM PDT by tubebender (99% of Lawyers give the rest a bad name...)
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The leftists in DC are going to use the chaos in Mexico to dilute the 2nd amendment. Never waste a good crisis, right? Now it’s a Senator complaining.

Senators want to fight Mexican drug cartels’ expanding influence

UPDATED: 08:15 PM EDT 03.17.09

WASHINGTON (CNN) http://m.cnn.com/cnn/lt_ne/lt_ne/detail/266798/full

[snip]A bloody war between Mexican drug cartels is no longer solely a south-of-the-border problem, members of Congress said Tuesday at a hearing on the issue.

The violence accompanying those battles has crept into the United States, and is believed to be largely fueled by money and guns from America, said Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Illinois.

“The drugs are coming north, and we’re sending money and guns south,” said Durbin, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs. “As a result, these cartels have gained extraordinary power.”

About 90 percent of guns seized in Mexican raids are traced back to the United States, according to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, he said. About 2,000 firearms cross the border into Mexico daily, according to the Brookings Institution, he added.

However, the violence has skyrocketed, Goddard said, with a new and appalling trend: assassinations of police officers, prosecutors and other officials who are combating cartels.

“The casual fallout is going to be significant if we can’t do something to try to assist Mexico in stopping it south of the border,” Goddard said.

Efforts by Arizona authorities to fight the violence include intercepting wire transfer payments to smugglers of drugs and of human beings, Goddard said. Between 2003 and 2007, he said, Arizona seized about $17 million in such transfers.
... he said, as the cartels, faced with increasing law enforcement surveillance in one area, will simply take their crimes elsewhere.

And authorities must target the masterminds and leaders behind the violence, he said: “Just arresting and deporting foot soldiers is a waste of critical assets.”


3 posted on 03/17/2009 7:51:14 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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They used to cast cannon out of brass, didn’t they?


4 posted on 03/17/2009 7:52:25 PM PDT by DBrow
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How much more carbon will it take to mine, refine, manufacture and ship all this brass (copper and steel)?


5 posted on 03/17/2009 7:53:25 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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Prepare to disobey.


8 posted on 03/17/2009 7:58:27 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Mao was a community organizer, too.)
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Reloading components have shot through the roof. Primers were $10/1000 in the early part of this decade, they are now $33/1000. Bullets are up and now once fired brass will be all but impossible to find.


10 posted on 03/17/2009 7:59:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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But earlier this month, Georgia Arms received a canceled order, informed by its supplier that the government now requires fired brass casings be mutilated, in other words, destroyed to a scrap metal state.

Aside from Second Amendment implications, how much more will this cost the taxpayers?

bama is already planning to make major cuts to the defense budget. Now, presumably, they will have to pay someone to "mutilate" these spent casings, and they will also get less for them than before.

Insane.

14 posted on 03/17/2009 8:05:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I remember Pat Paulson comedically running for President and he once joked "Hey, I am firmly against Gun Control. ....the answer is, we just lock up all the bullets."

People roared and laughed. Little did they know in 1968 what 2009 would turn into...

16 posted on 03/17/2009 8:13:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2010 Conservative GOP sweep of primaries (knocking off RINO after RINO) and then winning in Nov)
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This is a two for one for the liberals:

They get to cut funds for the military and disarm the populace.


18 posted on 03/17/2009 8:17:00 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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You’ve got that right!!


19 posted on 03/17/2009 8:17:58 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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Bet the rent the once fired brass price is MUCH higher than the scrap price, so the DOD is pissing away that money.

Watch out for what they do to primers next.

21 posted on 03/17/2009 8:21:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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This reminds me of what Clinton did with surplus firearms.


22 posted on 03/17/2009 8:21:29 PM PDT by I got the rope
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There’s the feds gun control. Prices going up and up and ammo getting harder to get. Isn’t that a surprise. I’ll keep buying and buying while I can.


26 posted on 03/17/2009 8:31:43 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: ImaTexan

PING


31 posted on 03/17/2009 8:51:28 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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I sure enjoyed blowing off all my old ammo this month.
I kinda miss all the guns I sold but I needed the money
thanks to Obama’s stimulus package and the fact I’m now
unemployed.
But I’ve learned alot about potato guns.
Do you think Obama will restrict potatos?
What won’t he restrict so I can plan properly?


33 posted on 03/17/2009 8:52:55 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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folks 2010 is just around the corner.

Michael Steel is an idiot but he can not control the local GOP clubs/parties.

TAKE OVER YOUR LOCAL GOP. Go in with a group and get yourselves elected to party office.


40 posted on 03/17/2009 9:13:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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We all know brass is very dangerous to the environment.


43 posted on 03/17/2009 9:27:52 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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From the article:

"The Orlando Sentinel reports months of steady, heavy buying have left gun dealers in Florida facing shortages of ammunition."

I made a very quick stop earlier today at the "Florida Gun Exchange" in Port Orange, Volusia County Florida (about 60 miles NE of Orlando) to pick up some .38SPL ammo for a recently acquired older S&W Model 10. My 85 year old mama-in-law was in the car with me as we were retuning home after she had completed a scheduled doctor visit. I knew my "ammo stop" would have to be "quick" as she agreed to the stop and would be "in the car" while I "shopped".

It was my first visit to the very popular and well "cable advertized" gun shop.

As I entered, the first thing I saw was a "substantial" neatly stacked "display" (in the middle of the floor) of what at a quick glace were ( without actually counting around 30-40) 1000 rd boxes of Federal 9mm ammo (didn't catch the actual "specs" of what the boxes contained because of smaller print) with a sign on the stack posting a price of $279.00 per box.

The store was quite busy, I was finally waited on, and when I inquired about purchasing some .38SPL ammo, his smiling demeanor did a COMPLETE "180" as he told me that the store had NO FMJ .38SPL ammo for me to choose from, and that their back order situation is approaching the 60 day mark, with NO indication of when their vendors will be able to start filling their ever decreasing remaining stock.

I settled for one box of 20 Federal .38SPL 110gr JHP HYDRA-SHOK @ $22.95 ( to keep in the gun for it's "home defense" use), and had to settle for 2 50 rd boxes of MAGTECH .38SPL 158gr SJSP @$19.95 for when I get to try the weapon out for the first time.

The "sales associate" pointed to the shelves behind the counter containing their inventory of smaller quantity and specialty boxes of ammo and quietly lamented to me that he hopes "thing get better....SOON".

I then mentioned the "stack" of 9mm ammo I saw when I entered, to which he replied "When that stack goes, I'm afraid it'll be a while before we can count on getting another large shipment to replace it."

From my brief but very "eye-opening" first visit to the Florida Gun Exchange, I also hope the ammo situation in my area (and everyone else's) does "get better...SOON" .

47 posted on 03/17/2009 9:44:09 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Hutchinson reports Georgia Arms was manufacturing over 1 million rounds of .223 ammunition every month, but without the ability to purchase expended military ammunition, the company may be forced to lay off up to half its workforce.

Just from a fiscal POV this a stupid move. I wish the article had given a figure for how much the government used to bring in through sale of its once-fired brass.

It just gets harder and harder to believe this administration is not intentionally trying to crash the economy.

51 posted on 03/17/2009 10:03:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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Georgia Arms, my main supplier of.357 Sig dodges a bullet. Good deal


52 posted on 03/17/2009 10:14:39 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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