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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wonder where this guy was eight years ago when the left had a petulant fit over the election of GW Bush.

That said, I can't totally object to what the writer says. To me it's clear that Obama's policies are and will be a disaster, but the Constitution does not guarantee a government of wisdom and prosperity. The man is our elected president and our republic presupposes a level of political and civic maturity from citizens to accept election results that we do not favor. Nonsense about secession and revolution may be a fun way to blow off steam and a great ratings builder for media figures, but it plays into the hands of those who would condemn all conservatives and all conservative principles. It's time for a lot of conservatives to grow up and quit being such drama queens.

Obama is the legal president, we need to support him as commander in chief and chief custodian of our nations security. We need to respect the office more than those on the far left did when GW Bush was in office. That does not mean that we should not do everything we can as the loyal opposition to defeat his harmful domestic policy.

Then there's this silliness about "going Galt". The inescapable laws of the marketplace will slowly and undramatically do what this recourse to Ayn Rand's character promises. But the workings of nature do not provide ratings and notoriety to cute conservative media commentators.

30 posted on 03/19/2009 4:29:53 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Nonsense about secession

You live north of the Mason-Dixon?

32 posted on 03/19/2009 4:38:27 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson

You call us drama queens? You're head is buried in the sand.
36 posted on 03/19/2009 4:51:43 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Nonsense about secession and revolution may be a fun way to blow off steam and a great ratings builder for media figures, but it plays into the hands of those who would condemn all conservatives and all conservative principles. It's time for a lot of conservatives to grow up and quit being such drama queens.

I am deign to respond to this in any way other than anger, but let's be adults first. I don't see any problem with discussions of secession, armed revolt, or economic coup. The left has been peddling these ideas for decades, and it was ok for them to do it. Now that they're in power, their protestations against the conservative movements to effect change is laughable. They're all hypocrites!

That being said, the Framers worked in the ability of the people to revolt against government through the Bill of Rights. Amendment 1 gives us the right to speak against the government and request redress from grievances. Amendment 2 gives us the tools to effect those changes. The problem is that aside from the Civil War, the United States has NEVER requested redress from grievances in a way that made any difference.

A perfect example would be the Bonus Army march on DC in 1932. These brave men fought for our country, came back to a floundering economy, were promised money by the government, and when they went to collect, they were burned out of their shacks and violently ousted by commanders who we would eventually call war heroes after WWII. If an armed mass of men and women peaceably marched on DC with open-breech rifles, they would be struck down before getting out of Maryland or Virginia (depending on the direction they're marching). The US government has no tolerance for civil uprisings (look at what happened in Alabama last week with the Guard), and I believe that once the government has grown to the size it is now, there need to be talks about what rights, if any, the government is letting us have.

Personally, I will not live in a country where the government is looming, ever closer to passing regulations to universally ban everything we've known about freedom. My real question and ultimate concern: will those events drive people to rise up? Or are we all doomed to a life in brown shirts and bread lines? I would die for this country and what I know it to be. Would you?

49 posted on 03/19/2009 5:11:34 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The man is our elected president and our republic presupposes a level of political and civic maturity from citizens to accept election results that we do not favor.

It also does not allow the FedGov to remain legitimate if it exceeds it's Constitutional mandate.

Which it has, by a large margin. By any reasonable standard.

That isn't "drama". That's cold hard fact. The Founders rebelled agaisnt King George for far less than what we consider commonplace.

62 posted on 03/19/2009 5:34:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (1000110010101010100001001001111)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
“”Wonder where this guy was eight years ago when the left had a petulant fit over the election of GW Bush.
That said, I can't totally object to what the writer says. To me it's clear that Obama’s policies are and will be a disaster, but the Constitution does not guarantee a government of wisdom and prosperity. The man is our elected president and our republic presupposes a level of political and civic maturity from citizens to accept election results that we do not favor. Nonsense about secession and revolution may be a fun way to blow off steam and a great ratings builder for media figures, but it plays into the hands of those who would condemn all conservatives and all conservative principles. It's time for a lot of conservatives to grow up and quit being such drama queens.

Obama is the legal president, we need to support him as commander in chief and chief custodian of our nations security. We need to respect the office more than those on the far left did when GW Bush was in office. That does not mean that we should not do everything we can as the loyal opposition to defeat his harmful domestic policy.

Then there's this silliness about “going Galt”. The inescapable laws of the marketplace will slowly and undramatically do what this recourse to Ayn Rand's character promises. But the workings of nature do not provide ratings and notoriety to cute conservative media commentators. “”

As one of the biggest liberal, guilt-ridden Southerners on FR, I am not surprised to see this come from you. You never direct your venom at the left and instead choose to deride those of us on the right. I think most on FR can come to the obvious conclusion that your are at best a moderate - RINO, which is exactly what we do not need to hear right now.

109 posted on 03/19/2009 6:37:12 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
You are hear by demoted back to Captain!
113 posted on 03/19/2009 6:46:46 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“Obama is the legal president,...”

Are you sure about that? Would he be president if ACORN hadn’t been involved in polling place funny business? Would he be president if his place of birth had been verified? He might be the president, but it’s doubtful if he’s the “legal” president.


132 posted on 03/19/2009 8:48:06 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

With all due respect, I don’t think you appreciate how far this has gone and will go.


173 posted on 03/19/2009 10:35:26 AM PDT by caddie ("Every cat is a masterpiece." -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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