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Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?
Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC

With the events that have transpired over the last 58 days—since Obama and his adherents commandeered the US presidency—fear is now becoming the order of each and every day for many of We-the-People. ....... ....has led me to believe that both Congress and Obama are in the process of purposefully creating conditions that will lead to a revolution by We-the-People so that it and Obama can affect Martial Law and once and for all forcibly suppress the American people

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At first glance this seems a little off-the-wall, but the fact remains that the atrocities against freedom in Obama's first two months exceed anything done by King george in the decade before 1776. The stamp act, tea tax and attempt to disarm Bostonians pales into insignificance compared the rape of the treasury and threats to freedom we are staring in the face!
1 posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: LoneStarC

I must admit I often wonder if our illegal invasion is a means of building an army with no qualms about killing Americans.


2 posted on 03/20/2009 2:22:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: LoneStarC

I believe that the whirlwind is coming ...


3 posted on 03/20/2009 2:22:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LoneStarC

Not really. Watch the network news. The media and the congress are stirring up the masses. Does not anyone have a problem with an elected official stating that AIG people should be strung up with piano wire?


4 posted on 03/20/2009 2:23:30 PM PDT by Jaded (No act of kindness, no matter how small, ever goes unpunished. -THFG)
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To: LoneStarC

I’m still waiting!


5 posted on 03/20/2009 2:23:44 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: cripplecreek

I think the illegals are to make up for all the abortions we have done.
That’s a lot of tax payers.


6 posted on 03/20/2009 2:23:51 PM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: LoneStarC
I would say that these unconscious, marxist, imbecilic congressrats, led by the Pied Piper of the Potomac, Obomba the Magnificent are perhaps unknowingly inciting the populace to revolt.

This would, indeed, be a revolt against the revolting!

7 posted on 03/20/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT by IbJensen ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money."Thatcher)
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To: LoneStarC

IMHO, yes.


8 posted on 03/20/2009 2:24:09 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: LoneStarC

We’ll know when they start forcibly disarming the populace. Of course, that will spark the fury sooner than they planned.


9 posted on 03/20/2009 2:25:15 PM PDT by TheZMan (Revolution.)
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To: LoneStarC

If this be treason, then make the most of it!


10 posted on 03/20/2009 2:25:39 PM PDT by IbJensen ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money."Thatcher)
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To: devistate one four
I don't think they have an aversion to working under-the-table one day and taking social services for free the next.

If this is the goal of Obammie the Commie (other than the voting bloc to ensure no Republican wins a high-level position for 50 years), then he may be in for a rude awakening.

11 posted on 03/20/2009 2:26:40 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: LoneStarC

Eventually America will have to pay for the blood of 40 million innocents.


12 posted on 03/20/2009 2:27:09 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: LoneStarC

Pretty much, and it is NOT by coincidence. Can people not see the writing on the wall?


13 posted on 03/20/2009 2:27:53 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: LoneStarC

Bring it on, Cletus!


14 posted on 03/20/2009 2:28:07 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: LoneStarC
Whether by design or not, they have added the ingredients of revolution to the pot.
15 posted on 03/20/2009 2:28:23 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Paranoia is just a heightened state of awareness.)
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To: LoneStarC
"Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?"

Yes.

16 posted on 03/20/2009 2:28:25 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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To: LoneStarC

Not deliberately but it is coming.


17 posted on 03/20/2009 2:29:28 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Jaded

“Does not anyone have a problem with an elected official stating that AIG people should be strung up with piano wire?”

I dunno how grassley plays into this because he’s a republican


18 posted on 03/20/2009 2:30:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: fightinbluhen51

There has not been one single day where Zero has not done something that either cheapens the presidency or violates his oath of office. Reading the news is like watching a car wreck in slow motion.

Eventually the tipping point will come. At what point do we find the resident of the White House to be treasonous?


19 posted on 03/20/2009 2:31:05 PM PDT by datura ("Against all enemies, both foreign and domestic")
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To: devistate one four

Some criticize the Republicans for shipping the jobs overseas.
But considering all that the Democrats stand for, abortion, gay marriage, feminism, the requirement of two wage earners to keep up with the taxes, open borders, amnesty, etc. it seems the Democrat’s agenda is to ship the baby making over seas.


20 posted on 03/20/2009 2:31:57 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: Jaded
"Does not anyone have a problem with an elected official stating that AIG people should be strung up with piano wire?"

Wasn't this a quote from some caller to one of the news channels?

21 posted on 03/20/2009 2:32:45 PM PDT by redhead (Don't look at ME! I voted for SARAH!)
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To: LoneStarC

WH: Agenda on track despite worsening deficits

EXCERPT

“What we will not cut are investments that will lead to real growth and prosperity over the long term,” Obama said. “That’s why our budget makes a historic commitment to comprehensive health care reform. That’s why it enhances America’s competitiveness by reducing our dependence on foreign oil and building a clean energy economy.”

“It doesn’t change what the president’s focus is, in terms of his objectives in making critical investments, and doesn’t change his ability to halve the deficit in four years,” said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.


22 posted on 03/20/2009 2:34:15 PM PDT by maggief
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090320/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_budget


23 posted on 03/20/2009 2:34:33 PM PDT by maggief
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To: LoneStarC

This goes in line perfectly with current events. A civil war would give them the excuse to use Federal Troops on US soil (Fort Rucker incident). And it would destabilize the country, but there is not enough organization to make it workable. It would be a slaughter of patriots versus the very well oiled US Military. They would love the excuse to take out their “trash”. Please refuse to participate in this, for now. This is the time to go Glenn Beck and “surround them”. Guns and ammo for protection of private property. IMHO They caved on the Veterans health proposal. They will continue to cave, if we do not go off the deep end.


24 posted on 03/20/2009 2:35:17 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: LoneStarC

The war is already on. Most don’t know it yet.


25 posted on 03/20/2009 2:35:22 PM PDT by llevrok ("I have never understood multiparty democracy." - HR Clinton 3/6/09)
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To: Jaded

“The same is true with AIG,” he said. “It was the right thing to do to step in. Here’s the problem. It’s almost like they’ve got — they’ve got a bomb strapped to them and they’ve got their hand on the trigger. You don’t want them to blow up. But you’ve got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger.”


26 posted on 03/20/2009 2:36:00 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

That was creepy.


27 posted on 03/20/2009 2:37:56 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: momincombatboots

Anybody who was actually planning on using the US Armed Forces would not have proposed making service members pay for their medical care via private insurance.
First rule of tyranny is make sure your military is better fed and cared for than the populace.


28 posted on 03/20/2009 2:38:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: cripplecreek

I think that the illegal aliens are tolerated and encouraged, by politicos of both parties.

I think part of it is that they pay into social security, and help prop up that system. Part of it is supplying cheap labor for hard jobs such as farm work.

Who knows what other reasons there are. Neither major political party wants to get serious about the issue. We probably have lost the war against illegal immigration because their kids born here are American citizens.

In 1965, Ted Kennedy said that his immigration reform law passed that year would not change the ethnic makeup of America.

That same year, Medicare was estimated to be an ongoing $9 billion per year expense.

Why are liberals never held accountable for laws and policies they pass, or unintended consequences? Why are liberals never called to account for their good intentions costing far more than anyone could ever have imagined?????


29 posted on 03/20/2009 2:39:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Little Ray

BTTT


30 posted on 03/20/2009 2:39:19 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Califreak

He was chuckling when he said it. Twisted.


31 posted on 03/20/2009 2:41:06 PM PDT by maggief
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t think our Congress has sense enough to have an such a huge agenda, they are just useful idiots in the plans of Obama and whoever is controlling him.


32 posted on 03/20/2009 2:41:58 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: devistate one four

Illegals are simply future (maybe present) Democratic voters.


33 posted on 03/20/2009 2:42:07 PM PDT by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: momincombatboots
This goes in line perfectly with current events. A civil war would give them the excuse to use Federal Troops on US soil (Fort Rucker incident).

If such an uprising began, with whom would the USAF side? Would they open fire on fellow Americans on behalf of a government which is run by people who despise the USAF and the American People?

34 posted on 03/20/2009 2:43:17 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: LoneStarC
After careful consideration of the topic, I have concluded.....

Hell Yes, to which I say, bring it on boys.

35 posted on 03/20/2009 2:44:42 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Time to dig out the pitchforks and torches...............)
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To: LoneStarC

They are doing it intentionally. These are people who hate America, and they are determined to destroy it, for the good of the World. If you get in their way, then I pity you.


36 posted on 03/20/2009 2:47:03 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Little Ray

I am ex- military. I hope you are right. Although the governor end- around in the stimulus plan could open up the National Guard. Listen, this is worst case scenario. After 9-11 laws were put into place for more involvement of the military with “national emergencies”. I think civil unrest would be considered as such. It has happened once and if you read The Bible, read Lamentations 4. Until it happened to Israel, everyone said it couldn’t.


37 posted on 03/20/2009 2:47:30 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: LoneStarC
Well, I guess we can conclude that the sun in Obama’s logo is a setting sun.
38 posted on 03/20/2009 2:48:40 PM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: LoneStarC

“At first glance this seems a little off-the-wall..”

At second glance it is way off the wall!


39 posted on 03/20/2009 2:52:45 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Repeal 16-17

Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.


40 posted on 03/20/2009 2:52:50 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Jack Black

What do you think about this one? Four in one day?!?


41 posted on 03/20/2009 2:54:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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To: LoneStarC
Actually, I have been thinking the same thing for a while now. I was speaking with my bff and we were talking about how “weird” everything happening was and how blatant it was being done.

I feel like I am being provoked, like a triple dog dare.

42 posted on 03/20/2009 2:55:26 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: LoneStarC
The only scenario where I see these commie idiots doing this purposely is one where a foreign power, such as Russia, is already lined up to invade once our civil war kicks off. Without that, the leftists in this country wouldn't have a prayer of winning an actual armed conflict.

I honestly think that these people are really just incredibly stupid and live in a fantasy land. They do not understand simple realities of economics and foreign policy, and so they think that they can spend without restraint because government creates money, and that they can deal with foreign dictators and hostile powers with just a handshake and a warm smile because nobody ever really, really wants to hurt anyone else.

They are mostly deluded fools who are more interested in exalting themselves than dealing with reality, except for the few severely hardcore leftists who actually want to destroy this country.
43 posted on 03/20/2009 2:55:45 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: devistate one four
I think the illegals are to make up for all the abortions we have done.
That’s a lot of tax payers.

Am I to take it that you think "illegals" pay tax beyond the unavoidable sales and fuel taxes? I think that is hopelessly naive.

Regards,
GtG

44 posted on 03/20/2009 2:56:53 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: LoneStarC

Yes! Next question....


45 posted on 03/20/2009 2:58:11 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: LoneStarC

I’m afraid they are purposefully wrecking the economy to create a large body of unemployed and dependent people; then, presto! You may earn your income as a member of the brownshirts. Met with increasing protest from the conservative producers bearing the majority of tax burden, the brownshirts will be armed to suppress civil unrest and to enforce the newly-passed gun and ammo laws, then you would have a civil war.

Protect the 2nd amendment and no standing army!


46 posted on 03/20/2009 2:59:17 PM PDT by justapicker
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The left says they do. and they are never wrong.


47 posted on 03/20/2009 3:01:26 PM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: rabscuttle385; null and void; LucyT

Ping


48 posted on 03/20/2009 3:03:38 PM PDT by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use extreme violence to preserve liberty, deserves the tyrant that rules them.)
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To: LoneStarC
Before 0bama took office our country had never been in worse shape in my lifetime. And since the 0 took office it has been steadily getting worse. This is no accident.
49 posted on 03/20/2009 3:04:37 PM PDT by LiberConservative (0bama: Kenyan slang for "FAIL")
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To: momincombatboots
Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.

How does the federal government "force" the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your "oath", is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I'm sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

50 posted on 03/20/2009 3:08:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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