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To: momincombatboots
Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.

How does the federal government "force" the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your "oath", is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I'm sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

50 posted on 03/20/2009 3:08:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Ok You tell me.. who fought in the civil war? I am not implying anyone is mindless. Your defensiveness is counterproductive to conversation. Who defines “foreign and domestic” enemies during a conflict or even before a conflict begins? Who commands the US Military?


57 posted on 03/20/2009 3:22:21 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.

How does the federal government “force” the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your “oath”, is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the “enemies” against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I’m sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

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I also think they can spot the true enemy, but not if ...

1) they are rushed into a decision
2) they think everyone else will pick evil, and they will choose evil so they can “live”


76 posted on 03/20/2009 4:01:57 PM PDT by ROTB (It is easy being "pro-choice" when you're not the one getting killed.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

excuse me, but I think that oath was taken to the constitution, not to a president.


89 posted on 03/20/2009 4:42:08 PM PDT by wombtotomb (I would rather die on my feet as a free man, than live on my knees as a slave)
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To: Repeal 16-17

The states need to re-acquire the rights originally established in the constitution....the federali have overstepped their bounds, by a country mile! The Senate needs be appointed by the Governors to represent the States...etc . Some amendments ...16th and 17th are a good start...need be repealed.

Missing today is ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’!!! the corollary to ‘without representation’!! Hopefully, a Tea Party theme!


140 posted on 03/20/2009 8:35:24 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: Repeal 16-17
How does the federal government "force" the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your "oath", is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I'm sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

I see police officers all over town with shaved bald heads. They look like pro-wrestlers or thugs. If I were chief, I'd demand a clean cut, respectable look so the public isn't intimidated by these officers. I don't doubt that some of these guys would very eagerly uphold the "Obama law" with a gun. Its a new world folks...

152 posted on 03/20/2009 10:11:13 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Repeal 16-17
You need to familiarize yourself with “Chinese Army Discipline”.
196 posted on 03/21/2009 7:10:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: gieriscm

Interesting discussion... ping


230 posted on 03/21/2009 6:28:12 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Bookmark


251 posted on 03/22/2009 8:35:58 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Repeal 16-17

“is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the ‘enemies’ against whom the USAF is to protect the People?”

Yeah, that’s a mutiny. Happened in Russia during WWI. Didn’t end well. Bu8t let’s not write it off altogether.


260 posted on 03/23/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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