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Prelude to the Civil War; Four states mark the 150th anniversary of John Brown’s raid
johnbrownraid.org ^ | March/April 2009 | Theresa Gawlas Medoff

Posted on 03/21/2009 7:02:03 AM PDT by Liz

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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Well you can be in denial all you want but Georgia / New York / Rhode Island & Virgina did not join the Union until getting assurances that they could leave at any time.

They received no such assurances. It was the states that were ratifying, not the other way around. And in each and every ratification document was wording to the effect that they agreed to the Constitution as passed out of convention in Philadelphia on September 17, 1787. And the states could add any assumption they wanted to their ratification documents and if the Constitution did not allow for it then their assumptions were meaningless.

This was not honoured obviously by Lincoln.

One does not honor illegal actions like rebellion.

The CSA / South did not “start” the war. Lincoln & the North purposely started the war when he invaded the sovereign CSA & even instigated the war when he attempted to rearm the former Union forts within the CSA thereby giving Lincoln the excuse he required when his troops were resisted.

So which did Lincoln do? Start the war? Or instigate it? Make up your mind, please.

Sumter was the property of the federal government. Built with federal funds on land deeded to the government free and clear by act of the South Carolina legislature. South Carolina had no legal claims to it whatsoever, and if the federal government merely insisted on retaining ownership of what was their's to begin with then there is nothing illegal in that. The South chose war when they chose to bombard the fort into surrender after failing to starve the garrison out.

281 posted on 04/12/2009 6:24:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Graybeard58
fyi, i'd sooner have the Congo flag on my page than ANY of of the yankee state's flags. you made the RIGHT decision, imVho.

free dixie,sw

282 posted on 04/13/2009 9:47:32 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: 4CJ
Upheld in Mississippi [State v. Jones (1821)], Tennessee [Fields v. State (1829)] and others.

And rejected in other cases, such as South Carolina [State v. Fleming (1848)] and North Carolina [State v. Weaver (1798)]. Whatever the law said, though, the fact is that you can probably count the number of convictions of whites for killing slaves in the south on your fingers. When cases were brought, acquittals were far more common.

283 posted on 04/13/2009 10:34:52 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
And rejected in other cases, such as South Carolina [State v. Fleming (1848)] and North Carolina [State v. Weaver (1798)].

In State v. Fleming, 2 Strob. 464 (1848), the Supreme Court held the the charge to be manslaughter and not murder, agreeing with the 1821 law. As it was, it held a penalty of $500 and 6 months in jail. Murder of a slave was punishable since 1740, and punishable by death without benefit of clergy since 1821. To name a few:

In South Carolina: State vs. Cheatwood, 2 Hill. 459 (1834).
In Tennessee: Fields v. The State Of Tennessee, 1 Yerger 156 (1829).
In North Carolina the legislature made the murder of a slave illegal in 1774, the courts upheld in: State v. Reed, 2 Hawk 454. (1823), State v. Hoover, 20 NC 393 (1839), State v. Motley 7 Rich. 327 (1854).
In Mississippi: The State of Mississippi v. Jones, Walker 83 (1820).

284 posted on 04/13/2009 8:49:33 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
how about some PRIMARY SOURCES for your SILLY/south-HATING/phony/DAMNyankee claims???

otherwise, EVERYONE here will assume you are LYING again, as you USUALLY do. (even the members of "the DY coven" assume, absent evidence to the contrary, that you ALWAYS lie, even when THE TRUTH would serve your cause better. it's evidently a psychosis.)

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

285 posted on 04/13/2009 9:31:08 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: TexConfederate1861

“I hope John Brown is where he belongs. In Hell.”

Right along side of that skinny lawyer Lincoln!


286 posted on 04/14/2009 10:29:50 AM PDT by Rustabout
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To: 4CJ
“Yet a holocaust [abortion] has occurred here in the US, disproportionally murdering MILLIONS more blacks, and yet no one advocates Civil War to end it. And folks like you rail about a practice that was common and almost world-wide, but far more blacks have been butchered by doctors that violate their Hippocratic oath with each abortion.”

We must keep aware of what if any God these Murder defenders worship..After all ~I'd place ten dollars to your one that if Jesus walked down Yankee Ave in Sickcago and talked poorly of “Saint Lincoln” they would argue with him also!

287 posted on 04/14/2009 10:46:12 AM PDT by Rustabout
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To: Non-Sequitur
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288 posted on 04/14/2009 10:58:55 AM PDT by Rustabout
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To: Rustabout

Amen to that! :)


289 posted on 04/14/2009 11:38:05 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: Rustabout; All
WELL SAID!!!

i suspect that more BLACKS (alone) have died from ABORTION than died in slavery in 400+ years.

WHY doesn't anyone much care about that HOLOCAUST (outside the PRO-life movement, of course)???

fyi, i'm for equal rights for MINORITIES & WOMEN, including UNBORN ones.(to any females who may be reading this: this is "a WOMEN's ISSUE", as over 80% of aborted babies are LITTLE GIRLS!!!)

free dixie,sw

290 posted on 04/14/2009 2:31:49 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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