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Pro-Life Leader to Notre Dame: Cancel The Prez
NBC4 TV (Washington, DC) ^ | 3/21/09 | Asha Beh

Posted on 03/21/2009 9:29:31 AM PDT by advance_copy

Notre Dame invited President Barack Obama to do their commencement speech on May 17 -- and if they don't take it back, one pro-life leader says he's going to raise the masses in protest.

Since his first week in office, Obama has made a string of executive orders, appointments and policy decisions that contradict Catholic teaching of the sanctity of life, said Joe Scheidler, national director of the Pro-Life Action League, in a press release on Christian Newswire.

He's "the most pro-abortion president in U.S. history," according to Scheidler, who notes Obama's decision to dedicate federal funds to harvest embryonic stem cells for research, overturning conscience protections for healthcare workers, and appointing Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius to head the Department of Health and Human Services among Obama's sins.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcwashington.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoabortion; bhocommencements; catholicschools; notredame; obama; proabort; prolife
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Obama is "the most pro-abortion president in U.S. history"

True. Everything I've seen from Obama tells me the man just hates babies.
1 posted on 03/21/2009 9:29:31 AM PDT by advance_copy
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To: advance_copy

Get a bunch of big name donors to cut off the funds. That’s the only way you will succeed.


2 posted on 03/21/2009 9:31:03 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: advance_copy

No, he hates ‘your’ babies ... he managed to keep two of his own ....


3 posted on 03/21/2009 9:31:33 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: advance_copy

Up is down....black is white.....Jesuits are PATHETIC Catholics.


4 posted on 03/21/2009 9:34:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: advance_copy

The president of Notre Dame is, unfortunately, a heretic, just like his predecessor.

The only possible way to stop this is to really make a lot of bad publicity for him.

Notre Dame has been extremely successful at fundraising. Their building program over the past few decades has been immense. Now that times are tighter and donations may be dropping, we need to put the pressure on.


5 posted on 03/21/2009 9:34:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: advance_copy

Pro-live birth abortion at that.


6 posted on 03/21/2009 9:35:19 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: advance_copy

Eugenics and zero population control... “This way to the showers”


7 posted on 03/21/2009 9:35:53 AM PDT by A. Morgan (Every night I pray that Rezko and Blago roll over on Obama!)
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To: advance_copy

Win one for the Gipper!


8 posted on 03/21/2009 9:36:26 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: advance_copy

9 posted on 03/21/2009 9:38:02 AM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Ann Archy

Not a Jesuit actually. Notre Dame is run by the Order of the Holy Cross.

http://president.nd.edu/about-the-office/presidents-biography

But he’d might as well be a Jesuit, when it comes to running a Catholic university right out of the Church. His predecessor organized the infamous Land o’ Lakes Conference.


10 posted on 03/21/2009 9:38:25 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: advance_copy

This story cannot be posted too much. Regardless of religious persuasion, we need to unite to stop this travesty.


11 posted on 03/21/2009 9:39:18 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Cicero

I just wrote a letter to Bishop D’Arcy.


12 posted on 03/21/2009 9:44:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: don-o
Folks, put your money where your mouth is, while you still can.

A friend of mine who's an alum of a Jesuit institution of higher learning (specifically, the one that's bought out by Saudi money - G'town), said she's never seen a place so ashamed and embarrassed by its Christian background. Sad.

They came for the little babies and I said nothing...

13 posted on 03/21/2009 9:47:04 AM PDT by elk ((A Member of the Silent 58)TM)
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To: Ann Archy

While your statement may be true, I don’t think ND is Jesuit.


14 posted on 03/21/2009 9:47:54 AM PDT by steve8714 (Drill for oil, drill for gas, drill to heat water in the Earth.)
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To: Ann Archy
I am not a former NDer but if I were, guarantee I would be pressing the alumnae to withdraw this invite. In fact, I would make a point of pulling it back.

How can this place consider it a Catholic Institution and allow such a hideous figure as this give the commencement? Values are what is important, not hearing some blather from a baby killer.

Vince

15 posted on 03/21/2009 9:48:54 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Ann Archy

Notre Dame is not a Jebbie school. Until Hesbergh came along with ambitions to make Notre Dame into the “Catholic Harvard.” it was famous for piety.


16 posted on 03/21/2009 9:49:36 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: don-o

I agree to infinity...Non Catholic here but I am OUTRAGED that he is being asked to speak there...


17 posted on 03/21/2009 9:53:15 AM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: advance_copy

Maybe Touchdown Jesus can kick him through the goal posts!

Vince


18 posted on 03/21/2009 10:03:14 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Ann Archy
Up is down....black is white.....Jesuits are PATHETIC Catholics.

Correction: Up is down....black is white..... some Jesuits are PATHETIC Catholics.

Fessio and Pacwa are notable exceptions to your generalizing which is no better than the wailing of the "majority of Catholics voted for Obama" cabal.

By the way Jenkins, the President of Notre Dame, is a Priest of Congregatio a Sancta Cruce, Congregation of Holy Cross.

19 posted on 03/21/2009 10:04:29 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Cicero

Soon all Americans will be forced to make a choice—to do what is right or what is comfortable. You must wear the button of Obama or take up the pitchfork of reform. He is just a bit early in his call for the people to shake off their stupor and object to things they do not like about the Democratic Party (the real problem) and their leader, Obama.
We must de-fang the cobra by winning back the House and Senate. Without his majority Obama is powerless.
The plan must be:
1) Vote out or impeach traitor RINOS in the GOP.
2) Encourage conservatives to run and support them.
3) Break the back of the MSM Tyranny. Boycott Newspapers that are propaganda organs of the left, Boycott TV news and their sponsors that are leftists, Boycott Newsmagazines that support the left. Support Conservative Media.


20 posted on 03/21/2009 10:08:11 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: advance_copy

It’s a disgrace. The Cardinal of that Diocese should be involved in this with both feet.

How many so -called Catholics voted for Obama,this baby-killing POS?


21 posted on 03/21/2009 10:12:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pnh102

There’s one other way...

Make it clear that, if the president’s visit is not cancelled, thousands of pro-lifers will be coming to Notre Dame...and there will be trouble when they get there.


22 posted on 03/21/2009 10:16:24 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Ann Archy

These aren’t Jesuits. ND is run by the Congregation of the Holy Cross, CSC.


23 posted on 03/21/2009 10:17:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: advance_copy; nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=28#28

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=87#87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=101#101

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=102#102

Contacts from another thread — Action Ping! Get to it FReepers!


24 posted on 03/21/2009 10:23:45 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Cicero

Thanks for your post. I had just looked up the correction too!

Holy Cross Order runs Notre Dame. C. S. C. after their names.


25 posted on 03/21/2009 10:26:47 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ann Archy

Good idea. I think I’ll write Bishop Darcy, too. I already signed the petition the Thomas More Society website is sending to Notre Dame, but I don’t know how much good that’ll do. Still, every little bit helps.


26 posted on 03/21/2009 10:29:01 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Traditional Catholics (which includes all my friends) make the mistake of focusing their anger on the presidents of Catholic universities. They are prisoners in the Ivory Tower, hostages to their faculties, and, because hostages to their faculties, they are prisoners of their boards of trustees.

The product a university markets is its “prestige,” which means the prestige of its faculty, its rankings in the various polls and surveys. A president of a university cannot fundamentally alienate his faculty because if a war breaks out between president and faculty, the president loses every single time. The board can always fire the president and hire a new one. The board can’t fire the whole faculty without losing the university’s “product” and thus the university’s raison d’etre.

Presidents of universities know this. Faculties of universities know this. It’s time for constituencies of Catholic unversities to get a clue about how they operate and focus their wrath where it matters: at the board and major donors. Lobby the big-name donors—find out who they are by consulting the alumni magazine announcements of big donations.

In marketing terms, the major Catholic universities long ago shifted to marketing themselves to non-catholic and CINO constituencies. There just aren’t enough people who care about this left in the the donor and alumni constituencies of these schools to matter. The boards know this.

However, Notre Dame is a bit unique. It has always had a small minority of faculty who fought the apostasy and it has cultivated a unique dorm-piety (hence alumni-piety) over the years. So there’s a bit of a chance with Notre Dame. But shouting at the president is less effective than shouting at the board and big donors.

Many of the presidents of the big Catholic schools realize that they’ve let the secularization go too far. They would like to rein it in, just a bit, not too much, you know. It’s also a marketing thing—even the most prestigious of the Catholic schools (Boston College, Georgetown, Notre Dame), without their Catholic cachet, are second-rate as research universities, at least in the bigoted eyes of the mainstream Academy. (Notre Dame in fact ought to rank within the lower echelons of the elite bracket of research schools, but it always gets points deducted due to anti-Catholic prejudice from the Ivy Leaguers and wannabes.)

So the presidents realize that they can’t let these school become totally secularized and most of them are trying their damnedest to pull back from the brink—e.g., the crucifix gambit at Boston College—purely cosmetic but indicative of the realization that they are on the brink.

But even though Jenkins quite honestly, like a lot of other presidents of Catholic universities, would like to pull Notre Dame securely into the “Catholic orbit,” at least in marketing terms, the opportunity to have the POTUS (or at least the TOTUS) speak at commencement is just irresistable to the board and big donors: since Rockne’s time, Notre Dame has been a national icon for American Catholics and the list of previous presidents who have given commencement addresses their, growing out of Hesburgh’s cultivation of presidents for decades, has created a “tradition” along these lines. To reject Obama because of his radical embrace of the Culture of Death (when most of the country, thanks to the MSM, is still ignorant of just how radical he is on these issues), makes no PR sense.

And it’s all about PR.

But don’t shout at Jenkins. From what I know of him (and I know a good number of people who knew him long before he became the heir apparent to Malloy), I imagine he would, if he had his druthers, have kept Obama away.

But I don’t think he has much maneuvering room here. It’s the board and faculty (not to mention the students, many of whom, after the fashion in recent decades, see the whole commencement competitively with other schools: my school had a bigger celebrity for my graduation than your school had for its, so my degree is more prestigious and I’m a More Important Person than you are, added to which is the gaga hopey-changey Obama-cult among the 18-24-year-olds)who really call the shots on things of this sort.

And people ought to stop taking pot shots at Bishop D’Arcy. Over the years he’s done just about everything he can do to try to rein in Notre Dame. Yes, he could use the “nuclear option” of denying ND the name “Catholic.” But if he did, he would be turned into a Torquemada and Notre Dame would be a champion of religious freedom and liberty in the eyes of the MSM and the original issue—Obama’s vicious endorsement of Death, would be totally lost in the shuffle.

The only ones who can rein in Notre Dame are its alumni and donors. And I’m afraid there just aren’t enough of them convinced that Obama receiving an honorary degree is a bad thing to make a difference.

I hope I’m proven wrong. I pray I’m proven wrong.


27 posted on 03/21/2009 10:29:03 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: advance_copy; pnh102; SkyDancer; Ann Archy; Cicero; nufsed; A. Morgan; ...
Here's a letter I just e-mailed to the President of Notre Dame and the other Big Bugs:

To: president@nd.edu, pmccartan@jonesday.com, mfox@archchicago.org, catholiceducation@usccb.org, ndalumni@nd.edu

Brothers in Christ:

You are not among those who are unlettered, oblivious and unaware.

You know that Barack Obama voted three times --- once on the floor of the Illinois legislature, and twice in committee ----to deny medical assistance and even compassionate palliative care to living, struggling infants unfortunate enough to be born subsequent to an attempted abortion.

You know that Obama's HHS has just rescinded federal regulatory protection of conscience rights for individual and institutional healthcare providers.

You know that Barack Obama is by far the most radical advocate of abortion AND infanticide ever elected to political office in the USA --- both actions condemned by the Second Vatican Council as "abominable crimes."

And this infamous man has now been invited to receive an Honorary Degree in Law from Notre Dame University?

Holy Mother of God!

In a statement adopted in 2004, the USCCB declared, "The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles."

"They should not be given rewards, honors, or platforms."

You would be utter fools to honor Barack Obama merely because he is is President of the United States, he is "historic," he is stylish and powerful, he is one of the great ones of the earth.

You are offending One far greater than he.

Sincerely,

[signed]

P.S. If you well and truly lack the testicular fortitude to do the right thing --- which would be to make a public statement rescinding Barack Obama's invitation due to the fact that he is morally unfit to be given a platform or to receive honors from any Catholic institution --- then you can at least work behind the scenes to "remind" Obama that he "unfortunately has a scheduling conflict" which will "unfortunately" make it impossible for him to attend.

And don't accept Vice President Biden as a substitute, a --- compared to Obama ---trifling, merely "moderately" murder-authorizing Catholic who has already justly been denied platforms, honors, and reception of Holy Communion by the Bishop of Scranton.

28 posted on 03/21/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: elk

Yes, all the Jesuit Universities are in trouble, but Georgetown is the worst and the most shameless of the lot.

It’s also the most expensive tuition in America, unless some other trendy place has moved into that spot since I last looked.


29 posted on 03/21/2009 10:31:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cheers to you!!


30 posted on 03/21/2009 10:32:11 AM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: SkyDancer

But we have no idea how many may have been aborted.


31 posted on 03/21/2009 10:33:15 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: advance_copy; Ann Archy

As Ann Archy suggests, if anyone wants to write to the bishop about this, the address is:

Bishop John N. D’Arcy
Fort Wayne Chancery
1103 S. Calhoun Street
P.O. Box 390
Fort Wayne, Indiana 46801

He doesn’t provide an email address at the diocesan website.


32 posted on 03/21/2009 10:34:31 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

A baby killer being invited to give a speech at a Christian school. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?


33 posted on 03/21/2009 10:39:12 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: pnh102

“Get a bunch of big name donors to cut off the funds. That’s the only way you will succeed”.

...that’s it in a nutshell. It’s all about the money. Institutions of “higher learning” operate the same as individual libs. On emotion only. They’ll invite the most anti-american, treasonist sob to ever walk the face of the earth to come speak, teach etc in the name of “free speech”. Then Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity types get booed off campus...all in the name of “free speech”. The moment you cut off funding, they’re all ears and common sense takes over.


34 posted on 03/21/2009 10:41:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: Ann Archy
Notre Dame is not a Jesuit school. (There occasionally have been Jesuits who guest-taught there, but it's definitely not a Jesuit school. I believe the order that runs Notre Dame is the Holy Cross Fathers.)
35 posted on 03/21/2009 10:41:52 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Mouton

Maybe someone with photoshop skills can make a picture of “touchdown Jesus” with a tear streaming down his cheek...

I believe that God will leave ND - no more “Luck of the Irish” from now on...


36 posted on 03/21/2009 11:11:00 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes, yes, yes.


37 posted on 03/21/2009 11:12:40 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent letter. You might also consider mailing Bishop D’Arcy (see #32).


38 posted on 03/21/2009 11:20:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tiki

Maybe he just kept the one’s he wanted ....


39 posted on 03/21/2009 11:31:35 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Houghton M.

I think on the whole you are probably right, although I wouldn’t underestimate the damage done by Fr. Hesburgh. He was the guy who led the Catholic colleges out of the Church at Land o’ Lakes. He was the guy who let McBrien by made head of the theology department. He was the guy who decided he wanted Notre Dame to be more like the Ivy League universities, and presided over the policy of hiring non-Catholic faculty. Now, of course, it is indeed difficult to fight the liberal faculty who are now in charge of many departments.

I taught a summer course at Notre Dame some years ago (sponsored by the Pew Foundation), and was very favorably impressed by the dorm piety you mention, and by the piety of many of the students. Also by the masses in their college chapel or church. The place is still very Catholic in spite of all those bad decisions. But I’m afraid that the current president seems to share Fr. Hesburgh’s attitudes.

I suspect that the alumni are somewhat divided. I’m sure they are proud of the new stadium and the campus and ND’s academic reputation, and perhaps bothered by the recurrent controversies and scandals such as the Vagina Monologues.


40 posted on 03/21/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: advance_copy

Has any of the Catholic Bishops or Cardinals expressed their concern about the ABORTIONIST OBAMA coming to a Catholic University?


41 posted on 03/21/2009 12:28:11 PM PDT by ethics
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Nice Letter


42 posted on 03/21/2009 12:29:42 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Cicero

I hope nothing I said was interpreted as letting Hesburgh off the hook. I don’t know what might have given you that idea.

McBrien’s is passe internally. He plays no real role within the Theology department (same for Dan McGuire at Marquette). Because of his public visibility, people think he’s the poster-boy for what’s wrong with Notre Dame. He was, 20 years ago. But he’s a joke, internally. Externally he wreaks havoc. But focusing one’s ire at Notre Dame on the presence of emeritus professor McBrien is misguided. The rot extends in big and little ways throughout the faculty (though, as I said, there are also some excellent, staunch, defenders and pactitioncers of Catholic thought, esp. in the theology department and law school but also in philosophy, liberal studies etc. and in para-departmental programs, e.g., the Center for Ethics and Culture.) I could name names of the good examples,but it’s best that I do not.).


43 posted on 03/21/2009 12:43:05 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

Yes, I was aware that McBrien was forced out of the chair of the theology dept some time ago when things got too hot. And they had some wonderful people there like Ralph McInerny. But McBrien was very influential earlier.

I know some of the people in the English dept, and I’m not sure why they were chosen for a Catholic university.

Also, I suspect that they have been lucky in a few cases. They hired Aladair MacIntyre back when he was famous for having written some basically communist stuff. And then he got religion and wrote his best books while he was at Notre Dame. Which may be why they let him go. Of course, I don’t know that, maybe he just wanted to move to another part of the country. But his departure was a loss to them, IMHO.


44 posted on 03/21/2009 2:54:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: advance_copy

Our Lady is weeping.


45 posted on 03/21/2009 3:19:54 PM PDT by MantillaMilitant (Obama: "I won" America: "We lost")
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To: advance_copy

He just doesn’t want to punish anyone if they make a mistake. </sarc>


46 posted on 03/21/2009 7:12:10 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Damn the torpedoes!" ~ Admiral Farragut)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very well put, Don-o!

I’m going to circulate to my pro-life friends.


47 posted on 03/21/2009 7:17:33 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Damn the torpedoes!" ~ Admiral Farragut)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
First, we concentrate on just getting enough Rs to gain a majority in either House. Then we can worry about jetisonning RINOs. In some cases it may not be possible. It's going to take a massive reeducation effort.

We'll see how discontent the natives are after 2 years of this but we have too many idiot voters in this country.

48 posted on 03/21/2009 7:18:17 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: ethics

The Cardinal Newman Society is on the job;

http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org


49 posted on 03/21/2009 7:19:02 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Damn the torpedoes!" ~ Admiral Farragut)
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To: MantillaMilitant

I’m not a ND alum...I was poised to go there until my Dad told me it gets very, very cold there. As a child of the Sun I couldn’t go through with it!! But I am a Catholic and I am outraged....this is what I am writing in email and mailing on Monday to anyone I can find associated with Notre Dame:

Dear Sir or Madam:

Notre Dame is named for the Mother of God, a blessed woman who chose life and brought forth the Savior of the world.

Your decision to host at Commencement Barack Obama, a man who not only voted for, but strenuously advocated for a law which would prohibit saving the life of a viable aborted child, and in fact taking measures to hasten his or her death; a man who advocates the cloning of human beings for research purposes; a man who wishes to spread the culture of death and destruction worldwide through the use of taxpayer dollars; a man who has voiced his full support for unrestricted infanticide up until the moment of natural birth, is more than outrageous.

Words fail.

If you are unable to strip this person of your ill-conceived invitation, you need to consider stripping Our Lady’s name from your masthead, for She is surely weeping in Heaven tonight.

Respectfully, Gator Girl (obviously I will use my “real” name here!!)


50 posted on 03/21/2009 7:26:57 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Proud Citizen of the Gator Nation!)
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