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The long and the short(The new Soros who made billions by betting against mortgages)
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Posted on 03/21/2009 7:12:48 PM PDT by maccaca

IN TODAY’S gut-wrenching markets, winners are as rare as a house that sells for the asking price. Even Warren Buffett is looking less than sagacious after his holding company posted its worst year ever. But one investor who continues to win plaudits is John Paulson. His hedge funds have had a superb crisis. They clocked up triple-digit returns in 2007 betting against subprime mortgages, netting him $3.7 billion personally—a sum that made George Soros’s winnings from currency bets in the early 1990s look modest.

... He targeted BBB-rated tranches, the lowest in subprime securities. With credit spreads so low because of a liquidity glut, his possible upside as a buyer of protection using credit-default swaps (CDSs) was as much as hundred times the potential downside. One $22m trade is said to have netted him $1 billion when Lehman Brothers went bust. ... The number-crunching that told him subprime-linked paper was overvalued now suggests that some previously AAA-rated tranches are a bargain. He talks of distressed debt—mortgages, leveraged loans and the debt of bankrupt firms—as a $10 trillion opportunity.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billionaires; mortgage; soros

1 posted on 03/21/2009 7:12:48 PM PDT by maccaca
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To: maccaca

Relationship to Hank Paulson?


2 posted on 03/21/2009 7:13:56 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

Soro, John paulson and J.C. Flowers shorted as a gang to wipe out financial svcs companies and helped O get elected. They wiped out Indy Mac with the helped of Schumer. Made billions, then recently bought Oindy Mac with Michael dell. they get Uncle Sam money to buy it, billions in tax loss carryforwards on top of it.

We have been played by these people.


3 posted on 03/21/2009 7:16:44 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Frantzie

What about the Saudi Prince Al Waleed Bin Talal? How does he fit into this senario. I know he owns alot of shares of some of the networks and supposedly funded Obama’s Harvard education but is there any connection to Soros, Paulson, Flowers, etc.


4 posted on 03/21/2009 7:21:43 PM PDT by classified
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To: classified

Soros took a bath on AIG stock.


5 posted on 03/21/2009 7:28:17 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: maccaca

Bump


6 posted on 03/21/2009 7:31:06 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: scooby321
Soros took a bath on AIG stock.

And now you understand why it was so important for the Corruptocrats to bail out AIG. Most of that money went to "pay off" foreign banks, want to bet that the majority of that went into Soros's pockets? Soros spent an awful lot of money to buy the election for the Corruptocrats, now they have to pay him back.

7 posted on 03/22/2009 9:31:32 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: maccaca

Soros took a bath on AIG stock.

I find that hard to believe. If you have your puppet in the White house talking down the economy and AIG you are in the unique position to “time the markets”. Even I made a modest purchase of AIG at .40/share. Today it is over $1.40. So I would wager Mr. Soros, with his hand up Mr. Soetoro’s backside, did very well indeed.


8 posted on 03/23/2009 9:44:02 AM PDT by AJMCQ (Who is Khalid al-Mansour? You mean Obama didn't get into Harvard on his grades?)
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