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Tens of Thousands Sign Petition Asking Notre Dame Not to Honor Pro-Abortion Obama
CNSNews.com ^ | March 24, 2009 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 03/24/2009 4:23:02 AM PDT by Man50D

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21 posted on 03/24/2009 5:09:11 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Man50D
Encouraged to hear of the objections.

The Lord will come again, and the wheat will be separated from the chaff!!

22 posted on 03/24/2009 5:17:38 AM PDT by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: Man50D
She also said that she is “disappointed” that her school, which she said is “one of the most prestigious Catholic universities in the country,” felt the need to give an award to Obama.

Perhaps the University of Notre Dame should stop pretending that it supports Catholic doctrine and announce that it is a secular university and be done with it!

23 posted on 03/24/2009 5:18:23 AM PDT by olezip
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
All due respect, but how can you continue to worship where your pastor has such little respect for life?

I would not want my children influenced by such.

24 posted on 03/24/2009 5:20:37 AM PDT by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: Guenevere

I would no longer attend a church where the priest was openly pro BHO.

As far as ND goes, I am guessing they have a lot of alums who contribute a lot to the school and are also pro life. Maybe if some of those people stop sending checks it will hurt the school in their pocketbook, and this will have an impact.


25 posted on 03/24/2009 5:23:59 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Man50D

Academia cannot go a single day without honoring a murderer somewhere.


26 posted on 03/24/2009 5:29:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: LeavingNewYork
The petitions are great. It would be better if some fat cats threatened to stop supporting ND football for a year or two.

They still have football?
27 posted on 03/24/2009 5:29:22 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Birth certificates are for suckers.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
I just went over to MSNBC and gave them my comments regarding Obama coming to Notre Dame.

I mention that it is fine with me if Obama speaks at Notre Dame,....just take down the statue of Our Lady from the dome and stop calling themselves Catholic.

No sense making her a part of this disaster.

28 posted on 03/24/2009 5:34:21 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
It does not sound like your pastor is saved.....A saved soul would not support someone like Obama nor should he be leading any kind of flock....

Are you looking around for a different church?

29 posted on 03/24/2009 5:34:28 AM PDT by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: onedoug
Academia cannot go a single day without honoring a murderer somewhere.

How many colleges and universities have invited Mumia Abu-Jamal to speak?

30 posted on 03/24/2009 5:36:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: mware

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/03/23/1854122.aspx?p=2


31 posted on 03/24/2009 5:36:42 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Man50D
to be the school's commencement speaker and to award him an honorary doctoral degree in law.

Quite apart from the abortion issue -- what on earth has Obama done to deserve an honorary doctorate?

32 posted on 03/24/2009 5:38:19 AM PDT by Sloth (The tree of liberty desperately needs watering.)
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To: Man50D

“Fr. Jenkins took pains to explain to the student newspaper that his intention was to honor President OBama for something other than his absolute support for abortion on demand. He also said that he intended Obama’s appearance at the Notre Dame commencment to be an opportunity for “engagement” with the president on the abortion issue.”

He may well be sincere in his thinking, but you do not honor someone who holds the power to kill tens of millions of the most innocent among us with a degree!

Obama holds the power and he has shown us he does not care about human life by his actions in rescinding the conscience clause, and his human embryonic stem cell experimentation approval.

There is no discussion. There is only prayer at this point.


33 posted on 03/24/2009 5:38:57 AM PDT by OpusatFR (We can give up any pretense of having a government for and by the people after Coronation Day.)
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To: Heartland Mom

It doesn’t receive money from the Catholic Church. Notre Dame is awash in money from football, the government, and from the success of Catholics in entering the mainstream of business and society after World War II.

The only thing ND receives from the Church is the permission to call itself a Catholic university.

Taking that away is the “nuclear option” belonging to the bishop of South Bend-Fort Wayne. But if he takes it away, then he becomes the focus of the story and Obama gets a free ride.

And Notre Dame would defy the bishop, start calling itself a “university in the Catholic tradition,” and, in PR and marketing terms, would be none the worse for doing so. The Church would have lost the last remaining control it had over the university and the rest of the world, which hates the Church anyway, would side with Notre Dame. Obama would win, Notre Dame would win, the Church would lose.

But that’s probably what now does need to be done—lose the battle in the name of winning the war for Truth: declare Notre Dame an UnCatholic University.

Those who think, however, that if the bishop would only declare ND uncatholic all would be well are deluding themselves. All would get a lot worse. The bishop and the Church would be portrayed as inquisitors who destroy freedom of inquiry and motherhood and apple pie and justice and peace and goodness and sweetness and light.

But then, they already are accused of that by many.

And at least the Truth would have been told.


34 posted on 03/24/2009 5:43:05 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: olezip

People keep saying that schools like Notre Dame aren’t really Catholic but the school is only an outward sign of an inner problem i.e heretical Catholic religious orders and the people who enable them.

The problems at UND are a reflection of the problems in the Brothers of the Holy Cross just as the problems at Jesuit schools are a reflection of the Jesuits. I wish people would stop giving them money. That’s the only thing that affects them. It’s harder said than done, my mother used to give money to the Maryknolls without knowing what they really did. She thought she was doing good.


35 posted on 03/24/2009 5:44:30 AM PDT by Varda
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To: kellynla

Do you think he cares? Jenkins is a philosophy professor who took on this job out of duty, not ambition. I imagine he’d like nothing better than to return to his philosophy teaching.

When will people learn that the president of a university is not a powerbroker. He’s in the crossfire between faculty, board, students, alumni and parents. He can never please all of them. If he alienates big donors or faculty, he gets fired. You don’t fire the donors, you don’t fire the faculty (because the faculty’s research prestige is the university’s marketable “product.”

If Jenkins were fired, nothing would change. What drives the decisions are marketing factors. And the sad truth is that the market for “Catholic education” today doesn’t give a damn about pro-life or other Catholic teachings.

For God’s sake, people, focus your anger at the board, at the faculty of Notre Dame, at the donors who won’t pull their donations (because most of them are themselves only CINOS). That’s where the problem is. Jenkins is small potatoes in all of this. He’s the messenger boy. The message is created by the huge reservoir of CINOism out there in the culture.


36 posted on 03/24/2009 5:48:07 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: mware
“I just went over to MSNBC and gave them my comments regarding Obama coming to Notre Dame”

Well, I'm sure the anti-Catholics at NBC were ecstatic to hear your comments.

Now, call the LAT, NYT, SeeBS, CNN & ABC...they'll all enjoy hearing your comments as well...and be SURE to say you are a practicing Catholic...If you wanna do something constructive, CALL ND & VOICE YOUR OUTRAGE!

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37 posted on 03/24/2009 5:53:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Houghton M.

I suppose BO will show up and make a wonderful sounding speech (off the teleprompter of course!) saying we should find common ground on the abortion issue, respect each other’s opinions, and all the usual bull. And he will be lauded by the media and even by some pro life liberals for his ability to transcend the issue and bring people together, blah blah blah.


38 posted on 03/24/2009 5:56:06 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Houghton M.
“Do you think he cares?”

I don't "care" if He "cares" but one way or the other Hussein will not be speaking at ND on commencement day. And you can take that to the bank.

39 posted on 03/24/2009 6:01:37 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Houghton M.
For God’s sake, people, focus your anger at the board, at the faculty of Notre Dame, at the donors who won’t pull their donations (because most of them are themselves only CINOS). That’s where the problem is. Jenkins is small potatoes in all of this. He’s the messenger boy. The message is created by the huge reservoir of CINOism out there in the culture.

So what's the solution? Cino's have no shame. I was shocked to see 2 cars leaving the church parking lot this weekend with Obama bumper stickers. If I had been closer I would have knocked on their windows and asked why they bothered coming to mass.

My point is - how do you deal with people with such blatant disdain for church doctrine? Or is it even we who should be dealing with it? Why aren't our priests more vocal? I don't want to hear about jeopardizing tax-free status, the baptists practically registered Obama voters in the pews and delivered campaign speeches from the pulpit.
40 posted on 03/24/2009 6:02:37 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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