Posted on 03/26/2009 1:24:04 PM PDT by pissant
Good then there’s no reason to believe the sniping from alleged McCain staffers is real, right?
No name = no truth.
A correct statement would be that there's no proof either the alleged sniping or even the staffers themselves are real. Certainly CNN could have fabricated them and their alleged comments. When it comes to the question of what constitutes sufficient "reason to believe" something or other, that is a completely subjective threshold which each person establishes for themselves, and which is frequently determined by their commitment to certain agendas.
The crux of this matter, and the point of the issue I raised, and which you are trying to avoid, was whether Palin's quote was authentic. Until that fact is established, then your speculations, assertions and your personal subjective threshold of belief about alleged sniping by McCain staffers is irrelevant, and completely uninteresting...
See #72.
And next time read the whole thread before you pop off.
Unless you can produce video of her actually saying this, and in the tacky tone and context which the article implies, we have no reliable way of evaluating this.You can hear Governor Palin's complete remarks IN CONTEXT here:
Gov. Palin's Speech to the Anchorage Republican Lincoln Dinner (3-20-2009) Part 8 - starting at 3.35This was primarily a "Piper" story. (Piper to her mom: Praying for God's help in winning the debate against Biden would be "cheating.")
The fact that there were no McCain staffers around at that exact moment (to pray with) sounds more innocent in the original than CNN's coverage implied.
She was drawing 20,000+ in crowds vs. McCain’s measly 300.
Palin didn’t “refuse” to pray with staffers, as the article indicates, but she did say she didn’t find any staffers with whom she wanted to hold hands and pray. It could mean she wasn’t too crazy about them or it may have been she didn’t feel comfortable sharing that kind of moment with them or suspected they wouldn’t be comfortable. Mostly, though, it was just the prelude to an adorable story about her praying with Piper. It’s really quite sweet, IMHO. Here’s video from the dinner to see for yourself. Check at the 3:40 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqwDpE7ixbI
Its always an anonymous 'aide' when they want to attack.
I didn't see any questionable remarks; what were they?
And there be the crux of the problem:
Politicians are not comfortable in the same room with an honest person; neither are liberals of any stripe.
The McCain campaign is definitely demoralized right now. The blame game has begun.There is no question that there is a rift between Sarah Palin's camp and that of John McCain inside the Republican campaign, sources tell ABC News.
And you are seeing people within the McCain campaign starting to look to the future. Not only Palin, but many of the McCain staffers, as well, are circulating their resumes and pointing the finger.
Whenever people in the campaign are starting to worry more about their own reputations rather than whether they're going to win in seven days, there is a significant problem.
Those loyal to McCain believe they have been unfairly blamed for over-handling Palin. They say they did the best they could with what they got.
They point to the bounce in the polls McCain got when he announced Palin as his running mate, her Republican convention speech, and her first interview with ABC's Charles Gibson.
What didn't work were the limited, subsequent media interviews, most notably between Palin and CBS anchor Katie Couric.
But some McCain camp insiders tell ABC News they simply couldn't put Palin out in front of the media any more than they did because she wasn't ready. The Palin camp is fighting back, arguing that if the McCain campaign had just let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin, she would have done just fine on her own. link
Sarah was undermined not only by the media and the liberals, but by some in the McCain staff as well. And now these wimps are complaining that because she said she couldn't find someone she wanted to hold hands with and pray, that's evidence of some kind of disloyalty. After how they treated Sarah? LOL!
The prayer of a righteous Piper availeth much.Here's a nice picture of Piper (and Trig) -- apparently from the night of the Palin/Biden debate referenced in the video:
Thanks for the link - that clarifies things considerably... /g
Great minds think alike. :o)Here's ANOTHER nice picture of Piper -- also apparently from that same night:
You're right, I completely missed that. I was wrong, and I apologize.
:o)
In my Band of Brothers meeting last week a friend of the group has cancer, and asked for people to pray for him, but "only if they beieve in the power of God to heal him". I think Sarah wanted to pray with someone who believed in her...
the "crappy" part of the story is she didn't see anyone in the McCain camp that believed in her.
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