Hmmm...homeschoolers have been doing this for a long time. If my children had been allowed to move along at their own pace in elementary school, we might never have pulled them out to homeschool!
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To: aberaussie
I think the intent here is more like “and then they shall all be equally stupid.” Removing achievement, by grades and class levels, subtly removes incentive.
2 posted on
03/29/2009 6:03:42 AM PDT by
Tarpon
(It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
To: aberaussie
If done right ( a huge qualifier) this is actually a far better way to teach then the one-size-fits-all way that they are doing it now.
3 posted on
03/29/2009 6:06:01 AM PDT by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
To: aberaussie
The kids will still know. You can’t trick kids. They’ll know who is left back and who is advanced.
This is as dumb as not keeping score at kids’ soccer games. The kids always keep score.
6 posted on
03/29/2009 6:13:58 AM PDT by
TaxRelief
(Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
To: aberaussie
When we homeschooled that’s how we did it, too.
We used Saxon math and did math year round. The first 30 or so lessons in Saxon are review, so when we’d start a new Saxon book, we’d take the tests, not do the lessons, up to the point where questions were missed on a test. That’s how we determined where/when to start the lessons in that particular level.
8 posted on
03/29/2009 6:14:20 AM PDT by
dawn53
To: aberaussie
...anything to make it harder to measure whether the kids are actually learning anything.
9 posted on
03/29/2009 6:15:12 AM PDT by
BobL
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To: aberaussie
Socialists don’t do anything without a reason.
While we do homeschool, and our children do learn at their own pace, the goal is different in their case.
In France, for instance, they know which children are moving ahead at an early age, and which ones are falling behind. It helps them categorize people into those that will eventually go to college, and those that won’t.
They know which ones “get” things immediately, which ones take 2x to burn something in, and those that take 5x to get something to burn in.
The tests merely prove their point.
Because the STATE takes care of education through college, you can forget about being a late bloomer — if you don’t show what they are looking for you will be classified for menial labor.
Pity the folks that were late bloomers.
Welcome to Obamaland.
11 posted on
03/29/2009 6:16:21 AM PDT by
ImaGraftedBranch
(...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
To: aberaussie
It wasn’t that long ago the States were taking Great Pride in eliminating “One Room Schools” and putting all children in true Grade Schools.
Just how are these Multi-age class rooms, In multi-room structures, better? Being bused to a distant structure doesn’t strike me as necessary to Childhood.
13 posted on
03/29/2009 6:19:16 AM PDT by
PizzaDriver
(an heinleinian/libertarian)
To: aberaussie
If my children had been allowed to move along at their own pace in elementary school, we might never have pulled them out to homeschool!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is our exact reason for homeschooling. When I told the teacher and principal that my first grade son was doing long division and reading fifth grade books I was IGNORED!
I simply could not stand to see my child's life wasted. As the ad says, “A mind is a terrible thing to waste!”
To: aberaussie
damn sounds like 5th grade forever.....
the dumb have just got dumber....
16 posted on
03/29/2009 6:20:34 AM PDT by
Gone_Postal
("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
To: aberaussie
One student needs three hours to figure out fractions while another takes a full day.It took me a 50 minute math class in 4th grade.
31 posted on
03/29/2009 7:03:29 AM PDT by
CholeraJoe
(Turning gold into lead!)
To: aberaussie
Sue Fine? Hope she doesn’t marry someone named Steele.
33 posted on
03/29/2009 7:12:03 AM PDT by
gusopol3
To: aberaussie
The schools in Manhattan,KS have done this for at least ten years. They lump some of the 4th, 5th, and 6th graders into the same room. They actually have 3 teachers assigned to the group. The teachers are very proud of it - call it muli-echelon something or other.
My opinion - students in the 5th and 6th grade aren’t allowed to fail, which is no good. Also, the smart 4th graders get an early start on pulling the weight of others...kind of depressing.
However good it may look on paper, it does not work well at all in reality.
37 posted on
03/29/2009 7:18:09 AM PDT by
lacrew
(Obama and cabinet: Fool and the Gang)
To: aberaussie
They didn’t all learn to sit up & walk at exactly the same age. They don’t all wear the same size shoes. Why do we expect them to all learn math & reading at the same pace?
38 posted on
03/29/2009 7:20:40 AM PDT by
Amelia
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To: aberaussie
Instead of talent rising to the top, the dregs will sink to the bottom.
48 posted on
03/29/2009 8:53:14 AM PDT by
Mike Darancette
(We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
To: aberaussie
Is there a difference between this and the ‘open classroom’ that was in vogue about 30 years ago?
52 posted on
03/29/2009 9:15:01 AM PDT by
radiohead
(Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
To: aberaussie
Sounds just like the early 1900’s One Room School, Mom was ready for college at 14 and that created another problem for the family. No school would allow them to live in the dorm so the family had to move to the college town.
I have to think...What benefits the Unions? That might be the motive.
53 posted on
03/29/2009 9:34:18 AM PDT by
3D-JOY
To: aberaussie
This is not even new but has been tried back in the early 70’s. Whatever....
To: aberaussie
If my children had been allowed to move along at their own pace in elementary school, we might never have pulled them out to homeschool! Same here. My oldest two were reading proficiently by the time they were five. They would have been going to school with kids who still didn't know their colors (for real - they lived next door to us)
There were several other factors involved in that decision, but that one played a major role.
62 posted on
03/29/2009 10:44:53 AM PDT by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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