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Iowa Same-Sex ‘Marriage’ Ruling an Assault on Midwestern Values
Americans for Truth ^ | April 3, 2009 | Peter LaBarbera

Posted on 04/03/2009 12:00:09 PM PDT by DesertRenegade

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I am pretty confidant that this absurd pro-homosexual ruling can be vacated within a few weeks. The vast majority of Iowans are sickened by this type of homosexual militancy and will have no problem supporting an amendment to the State Constitution banning all homosexual 'marriages'. Let's hope this can be accomplished swiftly.
1 posted on 04/03/2009 12:00:09 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

Why is Iowa so liberal?


2 posted on 04/03/2009 12:01:04 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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What makes anyone, at this point, believe that a state constitutional amendment won’t be overturned by the federal courts?


3 posted on 04/03/2009 12:01:55 PM PDT by kjo
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I believe that, according to the Iowa State Constitution, next year Iowans will be asked if they should hold a State Constitutional Convention. This ruling guarantees a majority of Iowa voters will voted “yes”.


4 posted on 04/03/2009 12:03:40 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Iowa’s amendment process is very different. It takes several years to go through the process, so gay marriage will be legal there for at least a few years.


5 posted on 04/03/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: DesertRenegade

What makes you confident?


6 posted on 04/03/2009 12:05:12 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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“What makes anyone, at this point, believe that a state constitutional amendment won’t be overturned by the federal courts?”

It is a certainty not to be overturned. DOMA denies the recognition of artificial homosexual ‘marriages’, so it would in no way conflict with federal law for Iowa to do the same.


7 posted on 04/03/2009 12:05:46 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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Marriage is between a man and woman and the king of all kings. The government can’t change that.

Judge calls out the law, we call the lord.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 12:06:40 PM PDT by devistate one four (Cw II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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To: Sequoyah101

It swings back and forth. What the problem here is a handful of radical judicial activists that think they can rule millions at will and disregard the law and precedent. Every last one of them should be removed from office for misconduct.


9 posted on 04/03/2009 12:08:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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“Iowa’s amendment process is very different. It takes several years to go through the process, so gay marriage will be legal there for at least a few years.”

This is not the whole truth at all. There are multiple legal avenues. The legislature can pass an emergency act within 48 hours, the Governor can also pass an emergency executive order, the Courts can issue a stay based on the damage the ruling will cause to religious institutions (a bright line federal right). Religious freedoms have the highest priority in our Constitution and therefore have numerous venues of protection. Believe me, these sham homosexual ‘marriages’ will be shut down before the end of the month.


10 posted on 04/03/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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Churches are responsible for this mess. If any Freeper reading this belongs to any church on this list, you are partly responsible for this ruling.

These churches not only fail to teach that homosexuality is a sin, many of them even promote homosexuality and perform "same sex" unions and ordain homosexuals.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

11 posted on 04/03/2009 12:09:41 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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“Iowa’s amendment process is very different. It takes several years to go through the process, so gay marriage will be legal there for at least a few years.”

Yes, changing the state constitution in Iowa is a lengthy process. It has to be approved in TWO CONSECUTIVE legislative sessions, and then has to be put to a public vote. So unless it is taken up immediately in the legislative session that is about to end, gay marriage will be legal in Iowa until at least 2012.


12 posted on 04/03/2009 12:09:44 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: DesertRenegade

That will not happen. RATS control the whole ball of wax and this is the ruling they anxiously awaiting.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 12:11:07 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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The SCOTUS likes the 14th Amendment and typically will side with litigants who cite the Equal Protection Clause.


14 posted on 04/03/2009 12:11:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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"Why is Iowa so liberal?"

It goes right along with our stupidity.

You could have asked: "why are Iowans so stupid?"

Consider that we are right in the middle of the Bible Belt, in the center of the Heartland, with nothing but traditional values streching back many generations, but YET we elect a democrat governor, and a majority of our state legislature, and a majority or our U.S. representatives are democrat as well. And the one that are Republican, are not all conservatives.

Just plain old stupidity.

15 posted on 04/03/2009 12:14:06 PM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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Steven Breyer, and Ruth Baden Ginsberg both believe that the Constitution needs to “grow”...it wouldn’t have to “grow” much at this point for the SCOTUS to start striking down state constitutional provisions.

If there can be found a federal right to abortion...there can be a federal right to sodomy.

It’s coming.


16 posted on 04/03/2009 12:14:39 PM PDT by kjo
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It’s a fact that the amendment process in iowa takes several years. I’m not sure what court you expect to issue a stay, because I don’t see that happening


17 posted on 04/03/2009 12:15:12 PM PDT by NinoFan
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Iowa’s amendment process is very different. It takes several years to go through the process, so gay marriage will be legal there for at least a few years.

Here's Article X, Sections 1 & 3 of the Iowa State Constitution:

§ 1. Any amendment or amendments to this constitution may be proposed in either house of the general assembly; and if the same shall be agreed to by a majority of the members elected to each of the two houses, such proposed amendment shall be entered on their journals, with the yeas and nays taken thereon, and referred to the legislature to be chosen at the next general election, and shall be published, as provided by law, for three months previous to the time of making such choice; and if, in the general assembly so next chosen as aforesaid, such proposed amendment or amendments shall be agreed to, by a majority of all the members elected to each house, then it shall be the duty of the general assembly to submit such proposed amendment or amendments to the people, in such manner, and at such time as the general assembly shall provide; and if the people shall approve and ratify such amendment or amendments, by a majority of the electors qualified to vote for members of the general assembly, voting thereon, such amendment or amendments shall become a part of the constitution of this state....

§ 3.At the general election to be held in the year one thousand nine hundred and seventy, and in each tenth year thereafter, and also at such times as the general assembly may, by law, provide, the question, "Shall there be a convention to revise the constitution, and propose amendment or amendments to same?" shall be decided by the electors qualified to vote for members of the general assembly; and in case a majority of the electors so qualified, voting at such election, for and against such proposition, shall decide in favor of a convention for such purpose, the general assembly, at its next session, shall provide by law for the election of delegates to such convention, and for submitting the results of said convention to the people, in such manner and at such time as the general assembly shall provide; and if the people shall approve and ratify such amendment or amendments, by a majority of the electors qualified to vote for members of the general assembly, voting thereon, such amendment or amendments shall become a part of the constitution of this state.

If two or more amendments shall be submitted at the same time, they shall be submitted in such a manner that electors may vote for or against each such amendment separately.

Simply overthrowing that State government would be quicker.

18 posted on 04/03/2009 12:15:24 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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I don't think so. Iowa long ago left the common sense Midwest, in favor of being more prairie populist (code for gimme federal money.)
19 posted on 04/03/2009 12:15:36 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Now Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large U.S. city with a big underground homosexual population - Des Moines, Iowa, perfect example. Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart. You can't build on it, you can't grow anything in it. The government says it's due to poor farming. But I know what's really going on, Stuart. I know it's the queers. They're in it with the aliens. They're building landing strips for gay Martians.
20 posted on 04/03/2009 12:16:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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