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FBI Agents Raid Dallas Computer Business [Data Center] [Disrupt 911 Emergency Services]
KTVT CBS 11 Dallas-Fort Worth, Tex. ^ | 2009-04-02

Posted on 04/03/2009 5:53:51 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

If you were online and couldn't access some websites today, we might know the reason why. The FBI raided a Dallas building that houses servers for several different websites.

CBS 11 News has learned that the raid is part of a general criminal investigation. Because of the confiscation of computers at Core IP Networks, a number of legitimate businesses have been affected.

From the downtown office building in the 2300 block of Bryan Street, FBI agents seized what one source described as millions of dollars in computer equipment.

Matthew Simpson, the owner of Core IP Networks, said in a letter posted online that FBI agents raided two floors and 'pulled the plug' on his clients' web servers starting at 6 o'clock Thursday morning. Agents also raided Simpson's house in Ovilla.

In the online letter Simpson said, "Neither I, nor Core IP are involved in any illegal activities of any kind. The only data that I have received thus far is that the FBI is investigating a company that has purchased services from Core IP in the past."

Simpson claims nearly 50 businesses are without access to their email and data. Some of those clients provide internet services to car dealers and other companies.

According to Simpson, some residents' access to 911 is also being affected because some of Core IPs primary customers include telephone companies.

The FBI isn't commenting on specifics but said it could take several days to restore the servers of the affected companies. Officials say they could speed up their analysis of the web servers if the affected companies would contact them.

Simpson closed his online letter with the statement, "If you run a datacenter, please be aware that in our great country, the FBI can come into your place of business at any time and take whatever they want, with no reason."

CBS 11 News emailed Simpson about the raid, but as of Thursday evening he had yet to respond.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antipiracy; copyright; coreip; coreipnetworks; datacenter; emergency911; fbi; govwatch; internet; lping; mpaa; riaa

1 posted on 04/03/2009 5:53:51 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: ShadowAce; bamahead

ping!


2 posted on 04/03/2009 5:54:02 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
"Neither I, nor Core IP are involved in any illegal activities of any kind. The only data that I have received thus far is that the FBI is investigating a company that has purchased services from Core IP in the past."

This is certainly curious. Shut down a major internet provider and disrupt numerous businesses because they're investigating a company no longer making use of this equipment?

Frankly, the FBI are incompetent. I hate to think what a mess they will make of this. And for what?

3 posted on 04/03/2009 5:58:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is why many companies won’t report computer crime and hacking unless they have to. The police will take the computers in question.


4 posted on 04/03/2009 6:03:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The FBI is a criminal enterprise. Too bad they cannot be held accountable for their actions, but they are truly above the law.


5 posted on 04/03/2009 6:08:50 PM PDT by microgood
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To: rabscuttle385

So if they list FR as a “hate site” they can come and take ALL the PCs in whatever host or data center they are located?

FASCISTS!


6 posted on 04/03/2009 6:09:48 PM PDT by RachelFaith (PALIN 2012 - "As if it actually matters any more")
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To: rabscuttle385

Think about this, It wasn’t to long ago that we were calling the conspiracy theorists lunatics. A lot of this crap is now filtering in as every day news. We better wake up quickly!


7 posted on 04/03/2009 6:49:11 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!)
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To: Cindy

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8 posted on 04/03/2009 7:07:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Cicero

Sounds like Obama and Co trying to distract and disrupt.


9 posted on 04/03/2009 7:43:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Simpson closed his online letter with the statement, "If you run a datacenter, please be aware that in our great country, the FBI can come into your place of business at any time and take whatever they want, with no reason."

That's not true, which makes me suspect that he's been up to no good. If he has a lawyer, and he should, I bet that lawyer wishes he'd shut his mouth.

10 posted on 04/03/2009 7:46:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: rabscuttle385
2300 block of Bryan Street

I think that's the Univision building. I didn't know there was a server farm there. There's a big facility a couple of blocks over, and another on the other end of downtown. I would have thought that location would have had commercial tenants.

11 posted on 04/03/2009 8:34:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Cicero
Frankly, the FBI are incompetent. I hate to think what a mess they will make of this. And for what?

I guess the FBI, never the most cyber savvy bunch, have never heard of "cloning" a hard drive. Or they could bring replacement hard drives to plug in, and loaded from backups. There would be disruption, but it would not be wholesale chaos that just pulling a bunch of hard drives causes.

12 posted on 04/03/2009 9:18:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Moonman62
"That's not true, which makes me suspect that he's been up to no good. If he has a lawyer, and he should, I bet that lawyer wishes he'd shut his mouth".

So, you believe the colo provider AND 50 of his customers are involved in a criminal enterprise? Really?

It's apparent you know jack-shit about the internet business.

13 posted on 04/03/2009 10:04:21 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

If you believe everything this guy is saying, then you’re the one who doesn’t know jack-shit about anything.


14 posted on 04/03/2009 10:08:19 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
It's not whether or not I believe this guy, it's whether it's plausible that 50 (FIFTY!) internet businesses and the colocation provider are even REASONABLY SUSPECTED of being involved in a criminal enterprise...and by definition, conspiracy.

Do you not see that as ludicrous on it's face?

15 posted on 04/03/2009 10:17:13 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

A lot of crooked businesses clone themselves. It’s a great way to dodge around, if “Bobs Barn” starts getting too high a profile startup “Bob Barn”. It’s very easy for 50 businesses to be 1 or 2.

Could also be a problem with how to colocation provider is keeping their records, maybe it’s just one business but they were “unable” to tell the FBI which servers it was. Depending on how they’re doing things they could even be running all these things on the same piece of hardware or interrelated pieces of hardware, everybody loves VMs and SANs these days but it really starts blurring the line between machines.


16 posted on 04/03/2009 10:25:04 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
"If you run a datacenter, please be aware that in our great country, the FBI can come into your place of business at any time and take whatever they want, with no reason."



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17 posted on 04/03/2009 10:29:34 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Mariner

Everything you are saying is based on the claims made by one person who is trying to give the false impression that the FBI did this without a warrant. I’m going to be skeptical of every thing he says after that.


18 posted on 04/03/2009 10:49:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
I'm CERTAIN they had a warrant.

The obvious question is: What did they tell the judge to get the warrant...and did the judge, and the leading officer have a CLUE what was being asked of them?

It's likely the caused MATERIAL damage to dozens of enterprises without cause...reasonable or otherwise.

These businesses will have no recourse.

19 posted on 04/03/2009 11:00:48 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Moonman62
-- Everything you are saying is based on the claims made by one person who is trying to give the false impression that the FBI did this without a warrant. --

Did you read the guy's letter? No. You did not.

21 posted on 04/03/2009 11:13:15 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: driftdiver

>>This is why many companies won’t report computer crime and hacking unless they have to. The police will take the computers in question.

Very likely this is another case that proves the truism “There are few situations that can’t be made worse by the addition of a cop.”


22 posted on 04/04/2009 4:34:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Cboldt

Yes, I did.


23 posted on 04/04/2009 7:34:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
-- Yes, I did. --

Not carefully then, because the writer expressly said the FBI stated it had a warrant, yet you claimed the writer was "trying to give the false impression that the FBI did this without a warrant."

24 posted on 04/04/2009 2:02:26 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

You’re the one who’s not reading carefully.


25 posted on 04/04/2009 2:06:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Cicero
I was a juror on a kiddie porn trail and frankly the FBI computer expert almost blew it for prosecution. The head of AOL security came to the rescue and staid for the rest of the trail to help the DA.
26 posted on 04/04/2009 2:08:06 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Some of the buzz around is it has something to do with a movie “Wolverine” being uploaded to torrent networks. Supposedly a working copy with steganographic markers linked to a particular custody chain.

DMCA sucks if you ask me, but a raid of this sort with the collateral damage that was inflicted, probably sucks way more than lots of folks imagined. So when somebody dies because a 911 center can't provide it's service, is what rightly should have been a civil matter going to escalate to a murder charge? Happens sometimes when when people pass laws they haven't read.

27 posted on 04/04/2009 4:55:36 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (0bama - a vital organ of the headless Soviet beast that thrives in our land.)
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To: rabscuttle385

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lynd3d

Here is the urban dictionary defition of the “special” agent in charge Allyn Lynd. He has a history of such thing. And from what I hear this is the third of second data center he has hit in a month in Dallas. He has reportedly frozen the assest of the companies hit this way so they have no real recourse to fight such malicious abuse of power. I think Core IP must have had lawyers on retainer to just get as much out as he did.

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/02/blind_hacker?currentPage=3


28 posted on 04/04/2009 8:18:54 PM PDT by bigbastard (Putting the "special" back in "special" agent)
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To: Moonman62
That's not true,

It is true.

You know it, you like it and you want it.

29 posted on 04/05/2009 4:56:55 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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