Notre Dame Shame: Nick Healy Addresses his Alma Mater

Catholic Online ^ | 3/4/09

[Ransomed]

The head of Holy Cross, Fr. Cleary, thinks it would be up to the bishops. Or at least that’s what he says. The bishops seem to say that it’s up to Holy cross. So it’s perfect cover for everybody. Just write to ‘em all I reckon.

I think this would be solved very quickly 500 years ago.

Freegards

[Mobile Vulgus]

Who is Nick Healey?

[big'ol_freeper]

If you go to the link you will find he is president of Ave Maria University and an alumnus of Notre Dame.

[A.A. Cunningham]

As Superior General, Cleary has many Canonical options; which he is self admittedly ignorant of, open to him that he has to this point refused to exercise.

[irish guard]

You are right about this being solved quickly 500 years ago or even 50. When a Catholic University or Catholic health system for that matter sets up its reserve powers, they do not afford one person such as Cleary the power to remove people, since it gives one person too much power. Instead, they give control to a group of religious, such as the fellows at Notre Dame. Now I'm sure the bishop under normal circumstances could ask Fr. Jenkins to resign, but again, the bishop doesn't control the University. The bishop for that area is another matter altogether. He has attended all the graduations for the last 10 or so years, delivers the same dumb speech (I've been to two graduations in the last 4 years) and is kind of losing his fast ball. Nevertheless, he is right on target with his opposition to Obama speaking. J

enkins put himself in a pickle here and it is just like the political folks in the CSC to let him squirm and then perhaps call for his ouster behind the scenes when his 6 year term is up. There is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. The university is trying desperately to make this look like Obama was a fool to ask to come to Notre Dame to speak, that the university was gracious in granting his request and now will have the Laetare Medal speaker give a pro life speech immediately preceeding Obama's speech. They are foolishly hoping this will embarrass Obama. Meanwhile, the students don't mind Obama coming (70% approx in favor) and the alums do (70% against). This is a mess of Jenkins doing and I can see the political CSCs plotting his demise.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"On a separate matter, I know Fr. Jenkins well enough to know he is a decent, religious man, but know he never saw this coming. In no way could he have imagined 160,000+ signatures in objection, Bishops, Archbishops and the head of the Holy Cross order in Rome siding against him and the potential of ruining the graduation for some members of the Senior class who oppose this decision. 16 posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:34:26 AM by irish guard

Then he must have been deluded and under the hypnotic spell of the false messiah. What's that line about "fooling even the elect, if that were possible"? How could a priest NOT be paying attention to Obama's abominable and anti-Catholic pro-culture-of-death policies? Only one not prayerfully in touch with the faithful and pro-life Catholics. Not a good sign.

[irish guard]

Trust me, there are factions among the priesthood that ignore the bad sides of politicians and cater to the bedwetting can’t we all just get along, care for the sick, feed the hungry side. All I can say is Obama would feed some pregnant mommy, only to gladly kill her born alive but intended to be aborted baby and these priests would look the other way. It is unpleasant to watch and disappointing.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

It's safe to say that Obama has not prayerfully reflected enough over this issue, nor thought it through with sufficient attention. The liberal modernist clergy who go whoring after liberal and Ivy approval in the universities are usually immature and suffering from poor formation. It's an intellectual error that the abortion issue is not important or grave enough to bar someone from honors at a Catholic university. That's what should get attention - Fr. Jenkins (and Notre Dame's) intellectual error here.

The comments and articles by Prof. Charles Rice and Prof. McInerny were on target and displayed the best of Notre Dame. That's a positive result.

[irish guard]

Prof. Rice is a very good man...and this year's recipient of the Laetare Medal will most certainly blast Obama from the very podium where he will have to deliver his commencement address, since she goes first.

Mary Ann Glendon, a professor at Harvard Law School who recently stepped down as U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, will receive the University of Notre Dame's Laetare Medal at commencement ceremonies May 17. She is a pro lifers' pro lifer. We alums are hoping she will make appropriate comments about Obama's terrible positions on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Glendon speaks immediately prior to Obama.

The nonsense coming out of Notre Dame is to use her as cover for their ghastly error in allowing Obama to speak. Fr. Jenkins likes to think of himself as an intellectual leader of a free thinking university that allows all kinds of diverse thought. He has proved this to be in error by allowing the Vagina Monologues to continue to be played as a means of cozying up to the faculty senate. Now he has shown his continued visual flaw by allowing Obama to speak all in the name of tradition. Ugh....

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Performances of The V Monologues are NOT a scholarly or academic exercise. That's just absurd. An academic debate and discussion of such issues would have to involve Catholic moral points of view, discussion of teachings on marriage, theology of the body, etc. Not just hysterical women shouting obscenities. So claiming that allowing The V Monologues to be performed is about "academic freedom" is BS, baloney, and liberal propaganda. There is a pattern here. A Catholic priest should not be pandering to liberal propaganda. Particularly of the anti-Catholic kind. It's as if they are saying that what Vatican II and the Land O'Lakes conference on modernizing Catholic colleges were really about was having neurotic lesbians shout obscenities in classrooms. That's ridiculous. And that kind of crap needs to stop on Catholic campuses.

[freeplancer]

The power is with the donors. Maybe abunch of high value donors should announce they are canceling all future pledges to Notre Dame.

[Desdemona]

He's smart enough to know he stepped in it, but just can't figure out a graceful way to extract the University.

Meaning what? He can't blame somebody else for a bone-headed move? Admit the mistake, confess and move on. It's part of living.

[patj]

The university is trying desperately to make this look like Obama was a fool to ask to come to Notre Dame to speak, that the university was gracious in granting his request...

Do I understand this right, Obama asked to be invited?

[irish guard]

My understanding is that the university has a standing invitation to every president to come and speak and Obama accepted, but really wanted to come, becoming more his effort than the university’s. That’s what I’ve heard. Now that could just be ND covering its rear end after the debacle.