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To: BroJoeK
Amazing...

It's an interesting subject, especially when the people discussing it are well informed on the subject matter. Personally, I find Swordmaker's posts to be very impressive, as I'm sure many other people do also.

I'm not sure what your true feelings are regarding the Shroud, Joe, but my advice is, don't be so quick to dismiss it. Just because the very existence of such a thing seems counter intuitive, doesn't mean it can't be true.

216 posted on 01/29/2010 11:16:42 PM PST by csense
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To: csense
"I'm not sure what your true feelings are regarding the Shroud, Joe, but my advice is, don't be so quick to dismiss it. Just because the very existence of such a thing seems counter intuitive, doesn't mean it can't be true. "

My true feelings are that the Shroud is most unlikely to be authentic. "Most unlikely" could change to "somewhat possible" if reliable carbon-14 testing showed appropriate dating. But there is no possible scientific way to "prove" the Shroud image is Jesus. For one, a reliable chain of custody is not there, and neither do we have a scientific explanation of how the image may have formed.

Any scholar will tell you there is only so much -- and that is not very much -- which we can possibly know historically about 1st century Judea in general and Jesus in specific. And many have spent their careers trying to tease out whatever data various records may offer.

I think these scholars are sincere and very serious minded, but their image of Jesus far far more closely resembles the one on the right than the left:


220 posted on 02/02/2010 2:12:47 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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