"“Obamanation’s continuation of the crap Bush “ WRONG! Obama isn’t merely continuing Bush policies - he is expanding, adding and moving far far far beyond the orbit of what Bush did. Nationalizing firms. a $1 TRILLION bailout on top of $700 b. Billions more and control of auto firms, which Bush did not want. $1 TRILLION in stimulus which is a huge waste. To call Obama a ‘continuation’ is simply wrong."
I believe the point I was making was that Bush set the precedent with the bailout, and the 'Rats are capitalizing on it. If you want to argue semantics, go ahead. Yes, it's obvious that Obamanation's plan is far more damaging that Bush's bailout. I never said it wasn't. So you can joust with the "continuing" windmill all you want, but you can't deny my point, that Bush set the precedent.
"“The Pubbies in Congress didn’t dare vote against the Pubbie-in-Chief” WRONG! In the House, the majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the bailout."
Wow...you completely missed the point. Let's break it down:
1) I defined "Pubbie" as "a lilly-livered, liberal Republican elected official”
2) You then added in post #68:
"Which in my book is a distinct minority of elected Republicans."
3) So we've established that to you, "Pubbies" are the minority of Republicans in Congress.
4) The opposite of "minority" is "majority".
5) You said, "In the House, the majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the bailout." Therefore, the minority (your word) "Pubbies", not being the majority who voted against the bailout, voted for the bailout. IOW, they, the minority (your word) "Pubbies" (my word) didn't dare vote against the Pubbie-in-Chief, which was my point all along.
6) Thanks for agreeing with my point, even though you did it in a very strange, twisted way that has me scratching my head.
You're tripping over your own words. You're a Republican...I get it. You don't want anyone to criticize your party, even when they deserve it...I get it. I know good and damn well that Obamanation and his Socialist cohorts are bent on destroying this nation as we know and love it. But they're being helped, and have been helped in the past, by the Pubbies in Congress and the Pubbie that sat in the White House for eight years, setting precedents that the 'Rats are now capitalizing on. If your partisanship doesn't allow you to see this, well, there's nothing I can say to sway you. But it's clear enough to anyone who's not looking through that party prism I spoke of earlier.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
“I believe the point I was making was that Bush set the precedent with the bailout, and the ‘Rats are capitalizing on it. If you want to argue semantics, go ahead.”
It’s more than semantics. Democrats were demanding bailouts as early as 2007!!
“you can’t deny my point, that Bush set the precedent.”
1. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Truman, LBJ and NIxon set the precedent.
2. the Democrats* in Congress wrote the bill. You keep putting it all on Bush. No is my point. Democrats were instigators and co-conspirators FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
“1) I defined “Pubbie” as “a lilly-livered, liberal Republican elected official””
- Pubbie is shorthand for Republican. You slammed *ALL* Republicans with your statements. Redefining a common term is silly and has you in a semantic side-argument with me.
“You’re tripping over your own words.”
My words make sense. Your re-labeling just causes confusion.
The correct word most of us use for that contemptible subset of Republican officeholders who sell out on conservatives is RINOs.
“You don’t want anyone to criticize your party, even when they deserve it...I get it.”
WRONG AGAIN. I havent stopped your from criticizing actions or specific people, I don’t want you to FALSELY make an impression about the many Republican officeholders who have been doing the RIGHT THING THROUGHOUT.
Our nearby 2 Congressional Reps, Rep Carter and Rep McCaul, were both against the bailout, spoke out against it. They fought the good fight on offshore drilling in the summer. they fought against Obama’s massive spending plan. They are doing exactly what you and I would WANT them to do. Therefore to insult them and their hard work by throwing them all in as “pubbies” and bashing them all - throwing the baby out with the bathwater - is unfair unjust and non-factual.
And btw it’s your party too unless you want no offshore drilling, socialized medicine, gay marriage, union check card, fairness doctrine, and $2 trillion deficits - the GOP is the only hope to stopping that stuff.
“by the Pubbies in Congress and the Pubbie that sat in the White House for eight years,” - As Reagan would say - THERE YOU GO AGAIN. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi took over Congress on january 2nd, 2007! the DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED CONGRESS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. The Republicans had only 4 years of full control of Congress under Bush, not 8!
Again, dont be unfair and non-factual in your criticisms of Republicans. If you are talking about some subset of Republicans - dont call them ‘pubbies’ it’s a clear slam on ALL republicans, including good honest hard-working conservative Republicans, when you do that.