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To: jamese777
"Was Janet Reno responsible for Waco and for Elian Gonzales or were they the fault of politically motivated underlings?

Well, the Waco and Gonzales cases are completely different from what's going on here. Waco and Gonzales were both green-lit from the White House; Of that, there is no question. The FBI didn't decide to assault the compound on their own, nor did ICE (INS at the time) decide to raid a house a kidnap a small child on their own. They were following orders. No one can claim that these prosecutors were following orders to act in an unethical or illegal manner. They did that all on their own.

As for who the DOJ prosecuted or did not prosecute during the Bush tenure, I'm not an expert. But I'd say that we're in some agreement here. Bush and his three AG's certainly weren't bashful about prosecuting Republicans. In fact, besides the Alabama Insurance case (I belive the guys name is Don Siegelman, but am not positive), I don't think that there were any high-profile cases that were brought against Dems or big Dem supporters. The William Jefferson case still hasn't made it to an indictment, let alone a trial.

But, some are claiming that this Stephens case can't be politically motivated because it happened under Bush's watch. With this, I disagree. I think that these prosecutors (career or otherwise) were looking to score political points during a contentious election year.

105 posted on 04/07/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey

Was Janet Reno responsible for Waco and for Elian Gonzales or were they the fault of politically motivated underlings?
Well, the Waco and Gonzales cases are completely different from what’s going on here. Waco and Gonzales were both green-lit from the White House; Of that, there is no question. The FBI didn’t decide to assault the compound on their own, nor did ICE (INS at the time) decide to raid a house a kidnap a small child on their own. They were following orders. No one can claim that these prosecutors were following orders to act in an unethical or illegal manner. They did that all on their own.

As for who the DOJ prosecuted or did not prosecute during the Bush tenure, I’m not an expert. But I’d say that we’re in some agreement here. Bush and his three AG’s certainly weren’t bashful about prosecuting Republicans. In fact, besides the Alabama Insurance case (I belive the guys name is Don Siegelman, but am not positive), I don’t think that there were any high-profile cases that were brought against Dems or big Dem supporters. The William Jefferson case still hasn’t made it to an indictment, let alone a trial.

But, some are claiming that this Stephens case can’t be politically motivated because it happened under Bush’s watch. With this, I disagree. I think that these prosecutors (career or otherwise) were looking to score political points during a contentious election year.


I think the prosecutors got caught up in an extreme form of careerism/win at all costs mentality that got way out of hand and then it was too late to back track.
Senator Stevens’ closest personal friend in the Senate is Hawaii Democrat Daniel Inouye who testified as a character witness in Stevens’ defense at the trial. Inouye was the first witness called by the Stevens’ defense.


109 posted on 04/07/2009 2:02:46 PM PDT by jamese777
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