Obama’s Christian Appointee to Faith-Based Program Says Bible on Homosexuality Is ‘Not True’

cnsnews.com ^ | April 08, 2009 | Fred Lucas

[kellynla]

President Obama has named to his faith-based advisory council a self-professed Christian who holds that the New Testament's teaching that homosexual behavior is unnatural and wrong--which is found in St. Paul's letter to the Romans--“is not true."

The appointee, Harry Knox, has also said that Obama's decision to invite the Rev. Rick Warren to say a prayer at the Inauguration "tainted" the ceremony and that Pope Benedict XVI is a "discredited leader."

Harry Knox, a professed gay Christian who is director of the religion and faith program at the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual rights group, was named to President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships on Monday. The advisory council gives federal grants to faith-based organizations.

The appointment came after Knox criticized Obama prior to the Inauguration for selecting Warren, a California megachurch pastor and best-selling author, to deliver the invocation. Writing in The Huffington Post blog, Knox said to Obama, “We don’t feel hopeful anticipation of a new day in our country, and we don’t feel optimism. We feel betrayed.”

Knox said in the December article that Warren’s invocation would make the Jan. 20 Inauguration a “tainted” event because Warren supported the ballot initiative in California to amend the state constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman.

On the PBS News Hour in December, Knox said that Warren “has in fact leveraged homophobia to get ahead in his career. … This is the worst possible choice the president could have made.

[kellynla]

Well I guess the Old Testament is wrong too.

Leviticus 18:22

[kellynla]

ping

[stockpirate]

A person cannot be both pro-gay rights and Christian.

Proclaiming you are something doesn’t make it so.

He isn’t Christian, just as McCain isn’t a conservative.

[kellynla]

Love the sinner, hate the sin.

But for this clown to say that the Bible is “wrong” is just blasphemous!

[ETL]

For all you'll ever need or want to know about
Wright's "Black Liberation Theology",
see my FR Home page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/#Section%204
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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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>From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

[thethirddegree]

I think it’s time for pastors and preachers across America to begin condemning this president for what he is—an apostate.

[ETL]

I think it’s time for pastors and preachers across America to begin condemning this president for what he is -an apostate.

Definition: Apostate:
"One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause."
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/apostate

What evidence do you have that Obama EVER was a true Christian? His "church" taught Black Liberation Theology. That is NOT a legitimate religion. See (and actually read) my previous post on this thread.

[stockpirate]

Love the sinner hate the sin is a load of BS.

[kellynla]

“Love the sinner hate the sin is a load of BS.”

Well you are entitled to your opinion...
I will be abide by the teachings of my Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ, thank you.

[stockpirate]

Please tell me where that stupid verse appears in the bible!

You can’t.

And if it does that mean in a war I should still shot the sinner but love him at the same time?

[thethirddegree]

I was basing the use of the word ‘apostate’ on Obama’s claim to be a Christian, not on which church he attended. More likely he is not an apostate, but either a closet Muslim or an agnostic Marxist.

[ScottinVA]

“More likely he is not an apostate, but either a closet Muslim or an agnostic Marxist.”

My personal theory is that he’s more about worshipping himself than any deity.

[ETL]

More likely he is not an apostate, but either a closet Muslim or an agnostic Marxist.

Obama fancies himself a liberal intellectual. Do you seriously think that he would believe in ANY religion? The left looks down on people of faith. He has no choice but to pretend he's religious or else never get elected to any national office, let alone the presidency.

[SoFloFreeper]

I think biblical Christians here in America ought to begin to get used to the fact that our nation has begun perhaps an irrepresible slide into what Gomorrah was—proud of its sin, unwilling to listen, and headed for destruction.

We still have a duty to fight the good fight and keep the faith.

I am not saying we should “give up”. I am saying we should get a grip on reality.

[Cherokee Conservative]

Read I Corinthians 13 and see if you still think love is stupid, especially loving those who need to be saved. I guess we could act like the liberals and spew our hatred all over the streets. That’ll learn ‘em, and I’m sure change their minds too. I think the idea is to care more about where people are going to spend eternity than how bad they gross us out or make us mad here on earth. That of course doesn’t mean we can’t defend ourselves, fight wars (as they did in the Bible), and protect our country. I Corinthians 13 should explain to most people why we need to love sinners rather than hate them if we’re really dedicated to the Great Commission...God says it better. On second thought, read the whole New Testament instead.

[Piquaboy]

That guy is about as Christian as Obama Hussein.

[william clark]

Nobody’s claimed it’s a verse from the Bible. It’s a concept that’s found throughout, though. Does “Love your enemies and pray for your persecutors” ring any bells? In any case, the sentiment is no different than separating your feelings about a person from your feelings about what they’re doing. When your child does something wrong, do you then hate him? Of course not. When your best friend does something wrong, do you immediately reject him, or do you care enough about him to try and set him straight? Same principle.

And yes, in theory you could “love” the person you’re required to kill in wartime. Many soldiers have respected their adversaries while still doing their duty to country. What’s so difficult to grasp?

[stockpirate]

Okay, as long as we can kill them.

[MrB]

Liberals who claim to be “Christian”

MUST

reject the authority of the Bible and declare it to be just a bunch of good suggestions on how to be a good person.

There is no way to justify liberal ideology against the Word of God. God’s Natural Laws (ie, REALITY) are inherently conservative in “ideology”.

[LadyPilgrim]

Ping
This is what you and I were talking about.