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UK: 'Terror gang' may have been 'plotting to blow up shopping centre and nightclub'
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | April 9, 2009 | James Tozer

Posted on 04/09/2009 6:37:47 AM PDT by Stoat

Dramatic daylight terror raids on a university may have been linked to a plot to blow up a shopping centre or nightclub, police fear.

Students at Liverpool John Moores University watched in shock yesterday as two men were hauled outside and forced to the ground by armed police.
 

Witnesses said the duo  -  students at the university's Business School  -  were wearing combat trousers and hiking jackets, and claimed there were rumours of 'a bomb' on the premises. 

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The raid was one of a series carried out simultaneously across the North-West in which 12 suspects believed to be plotting a major terrorist bomb attack in Britain were seized. Most of the men are Pakistani nationals living in Britain on student visas.
 

Police believe possible targets were the Trafford Centre shopping centre in Manchester and a nightclub frequented by footballers.

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The other areas targeted included Cheetham Hill in north Manchester, where officers raided two houses looking for explosive material and seeking four men. An internet cafe was also searched.
 

In addition, a Homebase DIY store in Clitheroe, Lancashire, was raided by 100 officers, with shoppers looking on as two security guards were led away.

 

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My apologies for the severe editing of this article...this was done in order to remain in compliance with Free Republic rules pertaining to the posting of articles from The Daily Mail.  Please click on the main article link to read the full story.

 

Terror raids

Armed officers take no chances as they immobilise a terror suspect in Liverpool

 

Terror raids

A suspect is bundled away in Cheetham Hill

 

Terror raids

Armed officers stand above a terror suspect in Liverpool

 

Terror raids

End of the raid: A student wearing a hiking jacket is placed in a van with his arms secured behind his back

 

Police at the scene of an address in Wavertree, Liverpool after a series of terror raids in the in the North West

 

A general view of the Cyber Net Cafe, Cheetham Hill, where two men were arrested

 

Police at an address where men were arrested in a series of anti-terror raids


1 posted on 04/09/2009 6:37:47 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: manc; Cindy
Most of the men are Pakistani nationals living in Britain on student visas.

Britannia

 

 

'It was all pretty scary. It's frightening when there are armed police with machine guns everywhere and we did think our lives could be in danger.

2 posted on 04/09/2009 6:38:18 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2225327/posts

related info here.

3 posted on 04/09/2009 6:44:55 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Stoat

Yet immigration and racial pandering no doubt continues unabated in the formerly great nation known as Britain.


4 posted on 04/09/2009 6:45:45 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: TornadoAlley3
related info here

 Thank You

5 posted on 04/09/2009 6:50:46 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I’m sure they will eventually find a UK judge that will release them.


6 posted on 04/09/2009 6:51:41 AM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: SonOfPyrodex
Irrepressible youths.

 

Indeed.

 

Senior detectives said they moved quickly following an 'imminent and credible' threat of an atrocity by an Al Qaeda linked group, including the construction of an explosive device, said to be a conventional bomb rather than a 'dirty' bomb incorporating nuclear material.

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'There was information which led us to believe that these men were planning something major.

8 posted on 04/09/2009 7:04:51 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Islam is our friend!

Just ask the TOTUS!


9 posted on 04/09/2009 7:10:48 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: MikeWUSAF
Islam is our friend!

Just ask the TOTUS!

The way that they have developed such a reputation for  respecting  and honoring the preexisting cultures that they move into, assimilate so well and go out of their way to eliminate the stereotype of Islamofascist extremism just makes me so proud, it brings tears to my eyes.

"sniffle"

 

10 posted on 04/09/2009 7:16:22 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
So eloquently stated Stoat.

**wipes tears from eyes**

:)
11 posted on 04/09/2009 7:41:07 AM PDT by bethybabes69
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To: bethybabes69
So eloquently stated Stoat.
 

Thank you so much, but I just can't help myself.  They are such wonderful people and have brought such goodness, peace and wisdom to the world.  And the wonderful way that they treat women, with such respect and courtesy!  I wish that my darned white American neighbors would move away and their houses would be purchased by some shadowy overseas investment corporation, then occupied by about ten twenty-something male muslims apiece.  There's already a mosque less than a mile from the stoat cave but I'm so sad that they don't broadcast the 'call to prayer' on loudspeakers at all hours of the day as they do in some American communities.  Such wonderful diversity it would bring!  And of course it would be wonderful to see them carrying crates with radiological warning stickers on them back and forth from windowless vans parked on the street....they're just doing worthwhile scientific experiments that will benefit America and all of humanity of course.

I just get so overwhelmed sometimes, thinking of all of those fine muslims

"sigh"

 

12 posted on 04/09/2009 8:02:05 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
LMAO, wonderful!

*claps hands*

13 posted on 04/09/2009 8:03:43 AM PDT by bethybabes69
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To: bethybabes69

“snicker”


14 posted on 04/09/2009 8:05:00 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Whose idea was it to allow these Muslim pigs into our civilized nations?


15 posted on 04/09/2009 8:13:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: All
Police believe possible targets were the Trafford Centre shopping centre in Manchester and a nightclub frequented by footballers.

 

Aerial view of Trafford Centre (shopping mall)

 

Trafford Centre

 

 

Trafford Centre

 

Trafford Centre

 

Trafford Centre

 

16 posted on 04/09/2009 8:20:31 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: blam
Whose idea was it to allow these Muslim pigs into our civilized nations?

As to letting them in, we can, as usual, thank the Left for bullying anyone who dared object and shrilly crying "RACIST" at anyone who suggested that any nation has a right to restrict immigration and protect it's culture and borders.

The next time an islamofascist's bomb goes off in a shopping mall, killing hundreds or thousands of people we can thank white liberals as well as the culprits.

17 posted on 04/09/2009 8:31:16 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

I was in cheetham hill last year when I went over there and for years now it has been a place of anyone thinking are we in Pakistan or England

no surprise where they are form but of course the muslims will rally, they will carry on living in their enclaves, the police will be scared to do even traffic stops with them and then they will take to the streets to denounce these raids as racist

I just hope the coppers have got all the info on these people for the court or this will play into their hands again


18 posted on 04/09/2009 8:35:39 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Stoat

I’ve been ton the trafford centre many many times.
There is a prayer room there supposedly for just about anyone but of course there is Pakistani Muslims always around there.

So I decided to do my bit once and went in there , the looks I got from the pakistani were that of hatred but of course they did nothing to me as they realise I can look after myself plus they probably thought who the hell is this nutcase doing this right now.

One of them said you finished now and I said no, he wanted me to leave so they can have their 5 times a day bend overs.
I said well I will be here for some time and this place is for all.

bleieve me they were shocked and had no clue what to do.

incidently most people do not know their is a prayer room as it is right at the end and guess what next to the McDonald’s
LOL


19 posted on 04/09/2009 8:40:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: blam
Whose idea was it to allow these Muslim pigs into our civilized nations?

The problem that the British have is that when Pakistan was part of their Empire they gave the population British passports and told them England was their "Motherland".

Now the Pakistanis can travel freely to the UK.

20 posted on 04/09/2009 8:59:34 AM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
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To: manc
So I decided to do my bit once and went in there , the looks I got from the pakistani were that of hatred but of course they did nothing to me as they realise I can look after myself plus they probably thought who the hell is this nutcase doing this right now.

This is how we are going to have to handle them, one small battle and one square yard at a time.

Good for you; I will implement this strategy if ever I have the opportunity.

I can be one real Happy B*tch!

21 posted on 04/09/2009 12:48:48 PM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: Stoat

“Most of the men are Pakistani nationals living in Britain on student visas.”

Yep and thank you for the ping, Stoat.


22 posted on 04/09/2009 2:31:05 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; Stoat

I caught a glimpse of this on the news. It seems they had to push the raid up 12 hours (to a day-time raid) because the head of British anti-terrorism was holding the file, labelled “Secret”, in such a manner that when he went into the building (Parliament? Prime Minister? Somewhere!)the photographers at the curb were able to blow up a photo of the document and got details of the operation! The head honcho resigned.


23 posted on 04/09/2009 2:36:46 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: 21twelve

“The head honcho resigned.”

OK, there’s something I didn’t know.
Thanks for the update.


24 posted on 04/09/2009 2:39:17 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: 21twelve
Opps. I knew I should have clicked on that link in #3. More info on the screw-up by the head of the anti-terrorism force, and the treachery of the press.
25 posted on 04/09/2009 2:39:32 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: manc

I go shopping there on a fairly regular basis. Slightly more perturbing when its so close to home....


26 posted on 04/09/2009 6:17:18 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

my neice works there in claires and a few mates go there too,

when they have money like


27 posted on 04/09/2009 6:43:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: All; Oorang

Thanks to Oorang for the ping to this link (at The Threat Matrix on FreeRepublic.com):

Note: See photo and map.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/09/al-qaida-terror-uk

“Police feared ‘Al-Qaida terror attack’ on UK was planned for Easter”

guardian.co.uk, Thursday 9 April 2009 15.14 BST

SNIPPET: “Sources with knowledge of the investigation - in which arrests were rushed forward after Quick’s mistake, which today cost him his job - say the execution of an “al-Qaida driven” plot was “imminent”.

UK officials say they believe the attack would have been attempted by Easter Monday at the latest.”


28 posted on 04/09/2009 7:36:33 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All; Steelfish

Thanks to Steelfish for this related thread.

Note: The following post is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226038/posts

Al-Qaeda Terror Plot To Bomb Easter Shoppers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5133535/Al-Qaeda-terror-plot-to-bomb-Easter-shoppers.html ^ | April 09, 2009
Posted on April 9, 2009 6:38:39 PM PDT by Steelfish

Al-Qaeda terror plot to bomb Easter shoppers

An al-Qaeda cell was days away from carrying out an “Easter spectacular” of co-ordinated suicide bomb attacks on shopping centres in Manchester, police believe.

By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent 09 Apr 2009

Sources told The Daily Telegraph that the arrests of 12 men in the north west of England on Wednesday were linked to a suspected plan to launch a devastating attack this weekend.

Some of the suspects were watched by MI5 agents as they filmed themselves outside the Trafford Centre on the edge of Manchester, the Arndale Centre in the city centre, and the nearby St Ann’s Square.

Police were forced to round up the alleged plotters after they were overheard discussing dates, understood to include the Easter bank holiday, one of the busiest shopping weekends of the year.

“It could have been the next few days and they were talking about 10 days at the outside,” one source said. “We had to act.” Police are now engaged in a search for an alleged bomb factory, where explosives might have been assembled.

If such a plot was carried out, it would almost certainly have been Britain’s worst terrorist attack, with the potential to cause more deaths than the suicide attacks of July 7, 2005, when 52 people were murdered.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


29 posted on 04/09/2009 7:40:17 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

from the link in post no. 29:

SNIPPET: “The security services suspect that several of the men arrested were trained at religious schools in Pakistan and sent to launch suicide attacks on the West.”

SNIPPET: “Sources said police had arrested the man they suspected was the ring-leader, Abid Naseer, 22, at an address in Galsworthy Avenue in Cheetham Hill, Manchester.

He is said to be from the tribal areas of Pakistan where the Taliban and al-Qaeda have established their base.”

SNIPPET: “Among the locations raided on Wednesday afternoon was the Cyber Net Café in Cheetham Hill, where it is thought the men communicated using emails.”

SNIPPET: “Security sources suspect they received their instructions from al-Qaeda commanders in Pakistan.

The leader of the Pakistan Taliban is Baitullah Mehsud...”


30 posted on 04/09/2009 7:46:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All
JIHAD WATCH.org (TELEGRAPH.co.uk): "UK: AL-QAEDA TERROR PLOT TO BOMB EASTER SHOPPERS EXPOSED" (April 10, 2009)

31 posted on 04/11/2009 12:41:33 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; manc; 21twelve; TornadoAlley3
Thanks to all for your great posts and updates....all are sincerely appreciated.  Here's a bit more:

(severely edited to comply with FR rules)

Revealed Terror suspects in 'Easter bomb plot' worked at Manchester airport Mail Online

Members of the alleged Al Qaeda cell suspected of plotting a Bank Holiday terror atrocity worked for a firm based at Manchester Airport.

At least one drove vans for a cargo company which has access to sensitive locations.

A further two had passed security industry checks which enabled them to guard premises overnight, further raising fears that members of the gang - all but one of them Pakistani students - were planning to infiltrate high-profile targets before an attack.

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It was further claimed that some of the men have links to the terror group accused of the devastating Mumbai attacks in India which left more than 170 dead. The group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, or Army of the Righteous, was also blamed for the Lahore cricket atrocity.

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At least two of the arrested men had worked for Manchester Airport-based delivery firm Cargo2Go, the Daily Mail can reveal.

Cargo2go van drivers are supplied with a logo and a list of work

Cargo2go van drivers are supplied with a logo and a list of work

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One Cargo2Go driver, a Brazilian, told the Mail he had been inside secure areas of Manchester and Glasgow airports with minimal security checks. 'To be honest I didn't know you had to have any, as people just wave me through - I drop off the cargo and that's that.'

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Although 11 of the suspects arrived in Britain on student visas, only one is known to have attended a reputable institution, a 26-year-old studying accountancy at Liverpool John Moores University.

32 posted on 04/11/2009 2:25:04 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Thank you Stoat and this looks like a very good update with some interesting details.


33 posted on 04/11/2009 2:33:23 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; All
Thank you Stoat and this looks like a very good update with some interesting details.

You're quite welcome, and I'm delighted that you've found it to be worthwhile.  I apologize to ALL here for not responding to everyone's posts to me...things have been a bit hectic at the stoat cave...but I've read everything you've posted and I sincerely appreciate all of everyone's effort.  This seems to have been an absolutely massive terror attack that was thwarted and the details make it all more chilling with every new bit of information that trickles in.

34 posted on 04/11/2009 2:38:57 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

BTTT


35 posted on 04/11/2009 8:54:14 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Cindy; manc
Update

Students in Quick 'terror' arrests freed without charge News

Students in Quick 'terror' arrests freed without charge

Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor
 
 

MINISTERS were today facing an embarrassing deportation battle as nine Pakistani students held in the anti-terror raids that followed Bob Quick's photographed files blunder were released without charge.

The students were among 12 men arrested nearly two weeks ago in Greater Manchester, Liverpool and Lancashire. The operation had been brought forward after Mr Quick, Scotland Yard's former anti-terror chief, was photographed with a file showing details of the raid plan. Gordon Brown said at the time that a "very big" terror plot had been thwarted.

Today two of those detained were in custody. Earlier one suspect was released and last night the remaining nine Pakistani students were freed without charge.

All nine, aged between 22 and 38, have been handed to the UK Border Agency for deportation on national security grounds. A lawyer for three of the men, Mohammed Ayub, vowed to fight to allow them to stay in the country. He said: "Our clients have no criminal history, they were here lawfully on student visas and all were pursuing their studies and working part-time." The Home Office insisted the deportation was necessary "to protect public safety".


36 posted on 04/22/2009 3:12:11 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Thank you for the update Stoat.
I appreciate it.


37 posted on 04/22/2009 3:15:16 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

You’re quite welcome....I only wish that it could have been an update other than the usual “Bureaucrats turn terrorists loose again” bilge.
Our British Friends deserve far better than this. When Britain’s (Or America’s) next terror attack involves some of the people involved in this article, and hundreds or thousands of people die and are injured, those who set them free will be nowhere to be found or will hide behind the usual bluster. “sigh”


38 posted on 04/22/2009 3:22:09 AM PDT by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: All

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408278/posts

UK: Jihadists who plotted to blow up shopping center had been granted permission to work...
(by David Leppard for THE SUNDAY TIMES, December 13, 2009) via JIHAD WATCH.org ^ | December 15, 2009 12:11 PM | posted by Robert
Posted on December 15, 2009 3:20:33 PM PST by Cindy

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/uk-jihadists-who-plotted-to-blow-up-shopping-center-had-been-granted-permission-to-work-as-security.html

UK: Jihadists who plotted to blow up shopping center had been granted permission to work as security guards

Why not? To disallow them would have been “Islamophobic.” “Manchester terror suspects cleared to work as guards,” by David Leppard for The Sunday Times, December 13:

Ten members of a suspected Islamist terror cell, said by MI5 to be plotting to blow up a shopping centre and a nightclub in Manchester, had been granted permission by the Home Office to work as security guards in Britain.

The Pakistani students — who were never charged for lack of evidence — were arrested over an alleged plot to bomb Britain last Easter. Police believed they had conducted “hostile reconnaissance” of the Arndale and Trafford shopping centres and the Birdcage nightclub.

It has now emerged that in the months before the alleged plot, the men were given licences to work as security guards by the Security Industry Authority (SIA), a Home Office body that regulates the private security industry.

They all passed a vetting programme designed to bar criminals and undesirables from taking up sensitive security posts protecting airports, ports and Whitehall buildings from terrorist attack. When arrested, two of the students were working for a cargo firm which had access to secure areas at Manchester airport....

Posted by Robert on December 15, 2009 12:11 PM


39 posted on 12/15/2009 3:28:06 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/uk-al-qaeda-cell-came-within-days-of-attack-around-easter-of-2009.html

“U.K.: Al-Qaeda cell came “within days” of attack around Easter of 2009”

SNIPPET: “This was the case where officials were sent scrambling due to an assistant police commissioner being photographed with highly-classified documents visible. The new details illustrate what a close call this may have been, no thanks to said commissioner. “Al-Qaeda came within days of terror attack on Britain last year, court hears,” by Duncan Gardham for the Telegraph, March 9 (thanks to all who sent this in):

An alleged al-Qaeda terrorist cell arrested in the North West was within days of launching an attack on Britain a senior officer in MI5 has told a tribunal.
The men, who were arrested in Manchester and Liverpool in April last year, were said to be in direct contact with al-Qaeda in Pakistan, using coded email messages that talked about cars and girls.
They were said to be “operating in a similar manner” to those planning the mass casualty attacks of July 7 2005 and the trans-Atlantic airline plot of 2006.
Sources at the time said the gang was targeting Easter shoppers but police found no sign of bomb-making equipment and they were never charged.
The operation had to be brought forward after Assistant Commissioner Bob Quick, then Britain’s most senior counter-terrorism officer, was photographed entering Downing Street with details of the operation visible.
The “Al-Qaeda Pipeline,” still in action:

Four of the men, who had all arrived from Pakistan on student visas, are now appealing against a government decision to deport them on national security grounds. [...]”


40 posted on 03/10/2010 3:06:22 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Stoat; All

UPDATE:

Note: Videos, photos and other items of interest included with this article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8688501.stm

SNIPPET: “’Al-Qaeda ringleader’ wins appeal against deportation”

SNIPPET: “The alleged leader of an al-Qaeda plot to bomb targets in north-west England has won his appeal against deportation.

A special immigration court said Abid Naseer was an al-Qaeda operative - but could not be deported because he faced torture or death back home in Pakistan.

Mr Naseer, 23, was one of 10 Pakistani men arrested last April as part of a massive counter-terrorism operation in Liverpool and Manchester.

Student Ahmad Faraz Khan, also 23, won his appeal on similar grounds.
The security services believed the men were planning to attack within days of their arrest, but neither was charged.”

SNIPPET: “But Abdul Wahab Khan, 27, and Tariq Ur Rehman, 38, who were also arrested at the time, lost their deportation appeals.

They had already returned to Pakistan.

Mr Justice Mitting said they were committed Islamists who knew of Mr Naseer’s plan.”


41 posted on 05/18/2010 6:10:34 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: TornadoAlley3; Cindy; manc; happygrl; 21twelve; blam; bethybabes69

WOW....thank you so much for the excellent update, Cindy!
I wish that the current US ‘administration’ had someone even close to your high level of tenacity, attention to detail and organization skills, but I’m afraid that they have nobody who is up to your league. Thank you so much for all that you do :-)

Pinging a few others who have posted here as well so that they might catch up on the latest.


42 posted on 05/19/2010 12:08:46 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

You’re welcome Stoat.


43 posted on 05/19/2010 12:33:22 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Stoat

I’ve gone to cheetham hill a few times and heard of family over there in manc that there was arrests..
Rumour is that nothing will stick on these lot but guarantee MI5 will be watching them more closely I bet too


44 posted on 05/19/2010 5:30:04 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Stoat

Brilliant, LOL

your sarc is very intuned with the Brits


45 posted on 05/19/2010 5:31:43 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Stoat

been there a few times shopping and i went into what they call a prayer room which I might add is right near the McDONALDS(LOL)

Anyway I went in there and took my nieces and kids and said we’ll say a prayer and stay here form some time while the wife shops.

It was then time for a bunch of muslims to turn up and they kept waiting outside the room. I stayed now longer and they asked me to leave I told them no I am saying prayers etc.
They then told me that I have to leave as they need to pray I told them that they can pray but I am not leaving as this is a public prayer room with no specific religion.

I stayed for about an hour and if looks could kill off these pakistani muslims I’d be dead but you know what they wouldn’t say anything after I told them that I am staying here .

My point for all this was to prove to them that this is not a muslims room, this was put here for anyone to pray and they need to understand that it is not their’s.


46 posted on 05/19/2010 5:35:52 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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