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States' Rights Update: Alaska, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Montana
The Right Side Of Life ^ | April 7, 2009 | Phil

Posted on 04/09/2009 1:28:12 PM PDT by daylilly

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To: daylilly

Alaska has a beautiful governor but is very cold; Montana is over a thousand miles away from NYC but is very cold... Is there a trend here?


21 posted on 04/09/2009 4:24:00 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: wastedyears

summer in Alaska has been defined as 3 months of really bad sledding..:)


22 posted on 04/09/2009 5:06:03 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (The only thing Obama is capable of running is his mouth...(with help from a teleprompter))
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To: daylilly

Here is a little more info from the PDF file

On April 6, 2009, the Alaska House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed House Joint Resolution 27 [HJR27] [status page] which “claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States”

The final vote was 37-0, with 3 not voting. Here’s the tally. (h/t Tom Mortensen)

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5393

From snooper at C4P in comment of open thread


23 posted on 04/09/2009 5:29:09 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Kroft to Obama: Are you Punch-Drunk.)
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To: daylilly

I had the opportunity to discuss a resolution in the Delaware house with my state rep and his Saturday morning group. Not much yet to report, but he has the info and there was a lively discussion about this.

The kicker for him was that in the stimulus bill, Washington was dictating to the states. I flat out asked him if he liked taking orders from Washington. He wasn’t laughing.

I will keep you posted as more news is available.


24 posted on 04/09/2009 7:02:09 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: daylilly

I hope that my state, Alabama, follows Georgia. I recently moved here from South Dakota, and there are many similarities among the “red states” when it comes to ethics and politics. People in the “red states” don’t expect or want the government to take care of them from womb to tomb. They would rather do it for themselves, and they want congress to stay out of their lives. Only the parasites in our society want big government, and that number is increasing daily.


25 posted on 04/09/2009 7:08:07 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: eeevil conservative

Hey did they pass the right bill in GA about our states rights and the tenth amendment. I know you were talking about two different ones, one that had power and one that was ceremonial, but it was SR632 that passed for GA. Just for clarification on this thread, was this the one that had the teeth? Thanks


26 posted on 04/09/2009 7:08:14 PM PDT by Toki (The cows go moo, the ducks go quack, and Toki slowly goes mad.)
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To: NTHockey

There were two different versions in Indiana SR 0042 and SCR0037. I thought 0042 was stronger in the language, more protections. 0037 was pretty much 10th Amendment. 0042 sounds like it might apply to more things. That is just my impression and I’m not a lawyer.
Every state is wording it differently. It depends on how much support there would be in your state.
The senator who wrote our bills was skeptical about the amount of support which is why there were two versions. The thinking was the weaker bill had more of a chance of passage.

I really like how ours turned out. Good luck with your efforts.


27 posted on 04/09/2009 7:24:09 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: wastedyears

The weather might be part of this, but it seems to me the states listed each have a history of attracting people who are independent, honor working with the land (agriculture, ranching, hunting, fishing, etc) and perhaps have values that tend to be rugged and old-fashioned. The type of people who used to typify the American personality, in our own eyes and also the rest of the world.


28 posted on 04/09/2009 10:15:08 PM PDT by baa39
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To: baa39

Guys like John Wayne and Teddy Roosevelt are sorely needed in America today.


29 posted on 04/09/2009 10:51:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: daylilly

Do you know where we can get copies of the two bills....Which one passed?


30 posted on 04/09/2009 11:01:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Principled
GA version:

“...shall constitute a NULLIFICATION of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a NULLIFICATION include, but are not limited to:

I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

...Couldn't this trigger NULLIFICATION by requiring children to perform community service through Americorps?

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on FREEDOM OF POLITICAL SPEECH; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

...McCain/Feingold ...Couldn't this trigger NULLIFICATION!

As a GA citizen, I do not want the Constitution “nullified” I want the incerssion of my rights “nullified”!

31 posted on 04/10/2009 6:41:23 AM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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To: Kowdawg

Naw, we’re keeping Austin. If the Libs don’t like it, they shouldn’t let the border hit them in the ass.


32 posted on 04/10/2009 8:50:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: OrangeHoof

Looks like even GoodHair is on board.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2225901/posts


33 posted on 04/10/2009 8:51:50 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2009&session=1&request=getBill&docno=0042&doctype=SR#latest_info
This is the link for SR0042 which passed. I think it is broader in scope than SCR0037, which is better to me.

There is a link on that page where you can see the roll call vote, and another that lets you see the language of the bill.

Remember that it passed the Senate and has not gone to the House yet.


34 posted on 04/10/2009 4:16:35 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: wolfcreek
We're hearing a lot of talk about secession here in Texas.

Well, it's been a number of years since last I taught American History (having been caught up since in teaching A.P. American Government) but IIRC Texas is the only state in the union that was actually it's own sovereign nation before it was a state. Supposedly it has as a part of it's own Constitution or state law that if the Union acts in contravention of the laws of man and God that secession is almost automatic and assured. Don't know if that's the exact wording, but that's the gist.

35 posted on 04/13/2009 9:54:04 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wolfcreek
Naw, we’re keeping Austin. If the Libs don’t like it, they shouldn’t let the border hit them in the ass.

Thank goodness! Austin is beautiful country!

36 posted on 04/13/2009 9:56:17 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Looks like the Gov is on board (sorta)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2225901/posts


37 posted on 04/13/2009 1:02:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, rest)
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To: daylilly
How far does this go?

Will abortion, marriage and education go back to being solely state concerns? (They aren't mentioned in Article 1, section 8 either)

I think we should be careful with this state sovereignty movement.

38 posted on 04/13/2009 6:10:14 PM PDT by walsh
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Someone replied to me a while back that Florida asserted 10th Amendment rights back in 1995 during BJ. Will someone confirm that for me please?


39 posted on 04/14/2009 8:56:53 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: ExSoldier
“IIRC Texas is the only state in the union that was actually it's own sovereign nation before it was a state.”

I do not believe that is correct. I believe that both Hawaii and California were sovereign nations before they were states, even if California's sovereignty was very short lived.
40 posted on 04/17/2009 5:58:16 PM PDT by marktwain
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