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Carrying a Gun Wouldn't Necessarily Get You Out of a Shooting (BARF!)
abcnews ^ | April 10, 2009 | EAMON MCNIFF

Posted on 04/10/2009 12:43:14 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

America is facing an epidemic of gun violence.

Thirteen people were killed last week in Binghamton, N.Y., when a gunman, identified by authorities as 41-year-old Jiverly Wong, executed a mass shooting at the American Civic Association. The aftermath of that bloodshed has raised many questions, including whether armed, everyday citizens could take down such a gunman and save lives. Could you protect yourself if you only had a gun?

There are 250 million guns in the United States, enough for almost every man, woman and child to arm themselves. The FBI performed 12 million gun-related background checks in 2008, according to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. And with more than 50 deaths resulting from mass shootings in the past month alone, the argument for ordinary citizens arming themselves in schools, workplaces and anywhere else continues to grow.

But if teachers at Colorado's Columbine High School or the students and faculty of Virginia Tech University had concealed or open-carry permits, range training and loaded handguns mixed with their school supplies, could they have taken down men armed to the teeth, ready to die and acting under the element of surprise?

Watch "If I Only Had a Gun" tonight on a special edition of "20/20" at 10 p.m. ET

Some, like the group Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, which claims to have more than 38,000 members, think it would at least give people a better chance to survive.

Matt Guzman, leader of the advocacy group's Texas chapter, said that an armed student or citizen might even be more effective in taking down a gunman than law enforcement.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


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1 posted on 04/10/2009 12:43:14 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It may not get you out of a shooting, but you have a much better chance of walking away from one if you do have a gun.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 12:45:57 PM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But have you ever noticed how many FEWER people carrying guns are the victims of shootings?


3 posted on 04/10/2009 12:46:20 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Could you protect yourself if you only had a gun? “

Actually the question should be...

Could you protect yourself if you had NO gun.

The answer to that is an absolute NO.

End of lesson.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 12:46:51 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“gun violence”?

Kinda like “SUV rage”?


5 posted on 04/10/2009 12:46:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Bow? What bow?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Carrying a gun may not, but shooting the gun you carry will.


6 posted on 04/10/2009 12:47:08 PM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("I never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon, NEVER!" - Rorschach from the Watchmen)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
But if teachers at Colorado's Columbine High School or the students and faculty of Virginia Tech University had concealed or open-carry permits, range training and loaded handguns mixed with their school supplies, could they have taken down men armed to the teeth, ready to die and acting under the element of surprise?

Gee.....I guess we'll never know as the choice wasn't even available. I hate libtards.

7 posted on 04/10/2009 12:47:19 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
America is facing an epidemic of gun violence LeftMedia Agitprop.

There. Fixed it.

As usual, the disinformationalists argue from the false premise that any solution they don't like be 100% effective.

No -- no agenda here, folks. Move along...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 04/10/2009 12:49:03 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: beltfed308

I hate libtards, too! They have the brains of tapeworms and maggots.


9 posted on 04/10/2009 12:50:06 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

tell that to Suzanna Hupp.


10 posted on 04/10/2009 12:51:08 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Joe Brower

Wow. 12 MILLION background checks in 08 and only 50 deaths from ‘mass shootings’ in 09. That’s a percentage of.....really, really small.


11 posted on 04/10/2009 12:52:11 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If the criminals know that “some” are armed, and they don't know “who”, that is a deterrent all by itself.

No shots fired, BUT THE CRIME STATISTICS FALL!!!!

12 posted on 04/10/2009 12:52:38 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Fact: Having a loaded weapon raises your probability of shooting the assailant by more than 125 MILLION percent.


13 posted on 04/10/2009 12:52:55 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Things like that wouldn’t happen if more law abiding citizens were like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w


14 posted on 04/10/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Free ThinkerNY
an armed student or citizen might even be more effective in taking down a gunman than law enforcement.

It is an amazing scientific discovery, considering that a student's life depends on eliminating the threat, whereas a LEO's life depends on just the opposite.

15 posted on 04/10/2009 12:55:43 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t agree with your BARF alert.

The article very accurately describes adrenaline dump (tunnel vision, loss of fine motor skills) and raises an excellent question about whether carrying a handgun would help the average person thru a shooting crisis. And it provides excellent advice on what you can do if you don’t happen to have a gun handy.

I wish we could get ABC here in New Zealand: I’d be fascinated to see how the students do in the simulation. I will go out on a limb and speculate, tho’ — I suspect it’s not as easy for them as pull-out-the-Glock-and-shoot-the-Bad-Guy. I bet most of them adrenaline dump and freeze up.

I’d be really grateful if someone could watch this one and tell me how it goes.

*DieHard*


16 posted on 04/10/2009 12:56:21 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I have not wached abc news in over 20 years

***** liers and puppets

17 posted on 04/10/2009 12:57:41 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In a situation like Virginia Tech University shootings, the very worst case is exactly what happened. No change.

In the best case, fewer people, and possibly none would have died.

Somebody point out the down side here, cuz I missed it.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 12:57:48 PM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Electing Obama won’t necessarily improve your life either.


19 posted on 04/10/2009 1:00:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wearing a life vest won’t absolutely prevent you from drowning if your boat sinks either. Nor will having a fire extinguisher in the house absolutely prevent it from burning down.

However, both will put the odds on your side, should either of those eventualities occur.

Jack


20 posted on 04/10/2009 1:01:00 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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