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To: count-your-change
Not so. I’m sorry you can’t get past the superficial image. I really don’t see how I can make it more simple. Maybe one of the other posters can do better.

Maybe, but it seemed simple enough. It still comes down to declaring it to be either illustation or propaganda.

The only thing your explanation does is remove any responsibily for making that determination from the viewer. Whatever they decide it's illustation or propaganda must be because that's how the artist intended it.

67 posted on 04/14/2009 8:10:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Does the viewer then determine what an image or other visual expression is by virtue of their own interpretation apart from the artificer or must an attempt be made by the viewer to investigate the purpose and intents, the context and circumstance of the making of a work to form an interpretation?

If the former can a generalized interpretation be predicted so that an artist could choose certain imagery with the hope of producing that interpretation effectively?

If the latter, can we, in the absence of a clearly stated objective by an artist, discern his motive, message, etc., apart from just examining the image, by examining the artist and the circumstances of his work?

As a corollary, If all interpretation is apart from the mind of the artist then can propaganda actually exist except in the mind of the artist? It seems the artist could not know how to make his message broad enough to reach a necessary majority of the viewers to actually produce propaganda or project some opinion if the probabilities of interpretation were infinite on the part of the viewer.

I realize this is a vast oversimplification but if it works why not?
If specific examples are needed the two greatest sources of propaganda that are easily shown in the visual, is art and advertising, even allowing for the overlap between the two.

I would suggest some study of those two as it can be easily and inexpensively done.

68 posted on 04/14/2009 9:12:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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