Posted on 04/13/2009 9:04:32 PM PDT by Polarik
And just think, the CHIEF JUSTICE of the SCOTUS helped all he could. Can you say ‘’complicit to a felony.’’
Thanks. Nice synopsis. Good to see others who did some work and conclude FORGERY.
Techdude turned out to be a fraud.
--You say that! Does the misnamed Fight the smears website say the same thing?
I'm not sure, but I believe Texas darlin discovered this, and Polarik found out also. Techdude claimed credentials he didn't have. No one has been able to substatiate that Maya Soetero had a COLB.
It does not do the argument any good to use discredited information. There's enough real issues out there.
You said that Obama had spent over a million dollars on legal fees on this issue. When I asked for a citation in support of that assertion, you responded that he had hired three different law firms.
I’m prepared to believe that he had three different firms. With suits pending in several different states, it would be standard practice to hire local counsel, rather than trying to have one firm do everything.
That doesn’t come anywhere close to establishing the total amount of the legal bill, though. My guess is that the instructions to some of the lawyers were “Keep an eye on this case and see if the legal papers submitted by our co-defendant, the Secretary of State, omit any point that we want brought to the court’s attention.” You can do that kind of stuff for way less than a million.
This is hearsay testimony on your fellows part.
As Communists, the BHO squad is very good at subversion, lies, and infiltration.
The last number I read said there are something like fifty lawsuits in more that twenty states.
I don’t think he can do any of it for less than one million.
The problem I have in citing a source for the law firms is that I don’t keep a folder on this information I acquire about Obama. I do remember that two of the lawfirms mentioned are liberal activist law firms, one located in Chicago - big shock there! - and the other in Washington, D.C.
I’ll make some inquiries for you. Maybe we’ll get lucky. But lawyers are showing up for these lawsuits across the nation, and they are not government lawyers.
OK. I’ve come up with one law firm so far:
“Obama’s legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler (sandler@sandlerreiff.com) of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young...” (the source follows).
Obama Is Using CAIR Lawyer to Defend Himself...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2096874/posts
Nor was it even necessary to do so, because it didn't change the fact that I knew this COLB image was bogus, that I knew how it was made, and that Maya's COLB had nothing to do with it.
Now, I was the one who first discovered that Techdude was a fraud and I warned TexasDarlin, early on, not to trust him. My warnings about TechDude were ignored and she published his work anyway. She would, eventually, stop publishing his work, but not because he was a fraud -- she said that it was in response to TechDude's worries about his safety and the safety of his family. THAT story was bogus, the tale about the dead rabbit was bogus, and we now know that TechDude had stolen the identity of a real forensic document examiner, but when he couldn't do what he promised to do, he dropped out of sight using the excuses listed above.
I knew that TechDude was way off the mark when I saw his preliminary work, and that a real forensic document examiner (which he had claimed to be) would never make such dubious claims). Do you know what TechDude gave as a theory as to how Maya's name was allegedly visible on Obama's COLB??
TechDude was the one who said that Maya's COLB had been soaked in solvent to remove the laser print and then dried and typed over. His theory was patently ridiculous as the solvent would also destroy the integrity of the paper and its pattern. Not only that, there is a patent currently waiting for approval for a new chemical process to remove laser print from paper pulp in order to recycle it.
FACTCHECK had a field day with that theory and they made special mention of it as a way to trash genuine research.
If you recall, Jay McKinnon was originally credited, and also discredited, with creating the COLB image forgery, and that story was first published on Israel Insider -- it was also destined to become the longest-running thread on FR (now up to 7,584 comments):
I'll take Polarik's opinion on this over yours, thanks.
Obama Attorney Threatens Distinguished Veteran on Obama Birth Certificate Issue
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/ ^
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:25:21 AM by cycle of discernment
April 15, 2009
Obama Attorney Threatens Distinguished Veteran on Obama Birth Certificate Issue: Why?
Margaret Calhoun Hemenway
After the flippant dismissal by U.S. Circuit Court Judge James Robertson of the lawsuit to attempt to determine whether Barack Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as President, D.C. attorney John Hemenway received a letter from a lawyer representing Barack Obama and Joe Biden, his Vice President. (Hemenway had enjoined the suit launched by Hillary Clinton’s ally, Philip Berg, the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania and attorney Lawrence Joyce of Arizona, in an attempt to force President Obama to disclose his birth records, currently being protected against public scrutiny by the Obama legal team at a reported cost of as much as one million dollars.) The entire letter, written by Obama attorney Robert F. Bauer, states the following:
“I represent President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden. I write to request that, in light of the District Court’s March 24, 2009 Rule 11 order in Hollister v. Soetoro, No. 08-2254, you withdraw the appeal filed in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, No. 09-5080.
For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson’s order, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued.
Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses, and attorney’s fees, pursuant to federal Rule Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38.”
Mr. Hemenway’s response to the letter was a promise to “write and protest and attack those against the demand that Obama show proof of his birth, and I will continue to do anything I can think of doing that might perhaps deter or injure those who are opposed to “transparency” and “openness” and honesty in governmental operations—all those good and vague promises that Obama threw out in speeches read from his teleprompter.”
Mr. Hemenway added, “The lawyer for Obama, Robert Bauer, has abused his privileges as an attorney, because I can regard his premature (and totally inaccurate) threats to seek some sanction against me as a threat to keep me from performing my duty to my client. It won’t work and he will soon see that it has not worked to intimidate me.”
In his opinion, “many judges and other officials are simply crassly violating their oaths of office. Since I had been in the Department of State and served in Moscow for two years, I am mindful of an expression used by the Russians: “Nada dakazat’ kulak!” (You must show them your fist!)”
Hemenway also pledged:
“…to appeal the slap taken at me (the so-called “reprimand”) by Judge James Robertson who tried unsuccessfully to label our efforts as “frivolous” but who did not have the guts to sanction me under Rule 11. (This would have given me—and others engaged in this important battle —standing in the Court of Appeals.)
I will do my duty to Colonel Hollister, who technically is a client, even though I never agreed initially to follow the case in the Court of Appeals. The military, as Colonel Hollister’s interest demonstrates, is quite concerned with the basic issue of ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ orders originating from a ‘legitimate’ or ‘illegitimate’ commander-in-chief. Recall that Judge Robertson never did admit attorneys Berg or Joyce to practice in his court, never had a hearing and never examined evidence because he didn’t seek any.
The Judge gave the impression that his decision was predicated solely on ‘blogging and twittering’.“
For the many others who have contacted him and expressed interest in this cause, Hemenway invoked Churchill’s admonition: “If a matter of principle is involved in a course of action, then never give up—never – never – never.”
The most important part of that quote is the “matter of principle.” It was not just a display of the stubborn nature of Churchill. Following that advice, we can see that here, we have a grave matter of principle.
If Obama can break such a basic, fundamental rule of the Constitution, then what is to keep him from ignoring or suspending other basic rights, such as the Writ of Habeas Corpus?
Last, Hemenway points out: “Mr. Bauer claims his father was an attorney in Vienna who opposed the union with Germany (the so-called “Anschluss”) and promoted anti-Nazi political movements while he was in Austria. He says his father left Austria in 1940. Very few people left greater Germany after 1939, when the war started.
In any event, if Bauer’s background includes such a family history of opposition to anti-rule-of-law monsters, how does he explain his support for this Chicago-styled conspiracy to violate a basic requirement of the United States Constitution?”
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Margaret Calhoun Hemenway is a retired federal employee, having served fifteen years in the U.S. Congress and five years as a White House appointee at DoD and NASA.
This "son of the soil" or "son of the village" thing is how this got started (well that and the fact that Obama never released his original birth certificate).
John Kennedy was a "Son of Ireland." It doesn't mean he was born there. People say these things metaphorically.
The reason he didn't sidestep the birth controversy was that -- at the time -- Obama's birth was not controversial.
Or that Ogego wasn't paying attention to the question.
What they were asking him essentially was whether people were going to visit Obama's ancestral village, whether the government would put up a monument there. He may not even have caught the "birthplace" angle to the question.
Anyway, you have people who believe Obama was born in Mombasa, on the other side of Kenya, citing the ambassador and the "grandmother" as believing that he was born in the village. What's up with that?
Good job.
You are full of crap.
Obama has proven nothing about himself.
>>Hawaii never confirmed a request for, nor the printing of, this Certification of Live Birth.<<
I’m pretty sure that’s what Hawaii said they were doing.
reasonisfaith is a good guy. He was being sarcastic to an idiot.
Sure didn’t read that way.
There is a ton of information about Obama’s background out there if one will only do the research. And it doesn’t have to be directly about him. His mother’s travels are interesting, to say the least.
I’ve been doing research on this man since February 2008. Just for the record, I always do research on presidential candidates though it is usually perfunctory with nothing extraordinary. Obama, however, had gone to drastic lengths to hide his information, a dead giveaway that he has something to hide.
Especially as my computer was hacked several times last year, most of the hacking originating from a building in Washington, D.C. that housed Senate offices. (My nephew is an adept “ethical” hacker. He located the hacker’s origin.) We’ve complained to the FBI, even supplied them with the information about the source of the hacking, but to no avail.
What Obama hasn’t been able to do is conceal all the information about his mother or her whereabouts. For example, a fellow by the name of Kenyatta, deeply involved in the Mau Mau uprising in British Colonial East Africa, was going to be released from prison in the early fall (late August or early September) of 1961. Barak Hussein Obama (Senior), an admirer of Kenyatta’s, went home for the summer of 1961 to be present for Kenyatta’s release. His wife, Stanley Anne D. Obama, went with him. She did not return to the United States until mid-August to enroll in the University of Washington, from which she graduated with a degree in Mathematics in 1963. (She went back to Hawaii and got a divorce from Obama Sr., then married Lolo Soetoro, of Indonesia).
Baby Obama was born August 4, 1961. His mother wasn’t in the U.S.A. until mid August. So, where was our President born?
P.S.: this information was found by private investigators, prior to the election of 2008, working for an individual who is a writer; don’t expect to see it published until some time in the future. If we end up with a full-blown dictatorship a la Hugo Chavez, it probably won’t see publication AT ALL!!
bttt
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