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A prescription for the newspaper industry
McClatchy-Tribune News Service via - Sac Bee ^

Posted on 04/16/2009 12:18:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise

...How can an industry survive if it allows other companies, like Google News, to use its content without any compensation?

(NYTimes editor) Keller asked him (Google CEO), "When are you going to start paying for our content?" Schmidt stiffened a bit and declared: "We will pay when everyone pays" - everyone with an Internet site, that is. There's an impossible standard...

Online sales now provide one-third of his (RIAA VP) industry's income. At best, the music business would be a hollow shell of what it is today...

There's another solution. The courthouse. The Associated Press announced last week that it would "seek legal and legislative remedies" to stop Web sites from pirating AP content. The nation's newspapers own the AP. Shouldn't newspapers stand up for themselves? (Google, by the way, does pay the AP for its stories.)

You might ask: Why does it matter? Several studies have shown that more than three-quarters of the news you see, hear or read anywhere is at least derivative of something that originally appeared in a newspaper.

Television news has always been especially dependent on newspapers... The point is, without newspaper journalism, the nation would have little original journalism left...

"I wince as they run long excerpts of our material," he said. "I'll leave it to the lawyers to decide if that is piracy. But it's certainly freeloading."

Meantime, Keller said he frequently encounters the lofty ethos of the Internet age: Information should be free! Wouldn't that be nice. Wouldn't it be nice if metropolitan newspapers didn't have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for their reporting staffs? Wouldn't it be nice if Keller's paper didn't have to pay $2 million a year to maintain its Baghdad bureau? Newspapers provide an expensive product. They deserve to be paid for it...

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheeseandwhine; dairyproducts; dinosaurmedia; dnctalkingpoints; drivebymedia; ivorytower; pravdamedia

1 posted on 04/16/2009 12:18:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...

How much does the MSM pay Media Matters and the DNC for running their missives without editing or rebuttal?


2 posted on 04/16/2009 12:19:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Here’s my prescription for newspapers: ESAD.


3 posted on 04/16/2009 12:22:24 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Their tripe would make a parakeet constipated.


4 posted on 04/16/2009 12:24:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise

How can an industry survive if it allows other companies, like Google News, to use its content without any compensation?

(NYTimes editor) Keller asked him (Google CEO), “When are you going to start paying for our content?” Schmidt stiffened a bit and declared: “We will pay when everyone pays” - everyone with an Internet site, that is. There’s an impossible standard...

Online sales now provide one-third of his (RIAA VP) industry’s income. At best, the music business would be a hollow shell of what it is today...

There’s another solution. The courthouse. The Associated Press announced last week that it would “seek legal and legislative remedies” to stop Web sites from pirating AP content. The nation’s newspapers own the AP. Shouldn’t newspapers stand up for themselves? (Google, by the way, does pay the AP for its stories.)

You might ask: Why does it matter? Several studies have shown that more than three-quarters of the news you see, hear or read anywhere is at least derivative of something that originally appeared in a newspaper. Television news has always been especially dependent on newspapers... The point is, without newspaper journalism, the nation would have little original journalism left... “I wince as they run long excerpts of our material,” he said. “I’ll leave it to the lawyers to decide if that is piracy. But it’s certainly freeloading.”

Chill out man, what are you some greedy capitalist? Dude, its just words, nobody own words. We should be like the indians and share everything. Live and let live Bro.


5 posted on 04/16/2009 12:25:43 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead

How much of the SacBee’s content is regurgitated from the Socialist Daily Worker?


6 posted on 04/16/2009 12:30:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Why buy a newspaper when you can get the exact same content in a fax from the DNC for nothing? Enjoy bankruptcy sucker.


7 posted on 04/16/2009 12:30:49 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: a fool in paradise

A laughable, pathetic prescription for a Dead Parrot industry.

The liberal newspapers destroyed most of their remnant credibility in the Great Obama Scam.

Yeah, AP and NY Times, make my day. See who will pay to see your democrat national committee press releases disguised as “reporting.”


8 posted on 04/16/2009 12:31:50 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in)
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To: a fool in paradise

why do they think that if we borrow their “news” to laugh at,

that we’d pay for it?


9 posted on 04/16/2009 12:35:46 PM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Here's my prescription for the newspapers...


10 posted on 04/16/2009 12:44:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Hacklehead
How can an industry survive if it allows other companies, like Google News, to use its content without any compensation?

By making the site require a paid subscription. You know, just like a regular newspaper.

When you post your content on the open web for everyone to read, guess what? Everyone can read it. Don't like it? Don't post it.

What the Slimes wants is for lots of people to come to their site and a view their ads. They are quite kind by collecting money from advertisers (their customers) while letting you (their product) view their spew for free. That's because producing news content is a business expense. Like electricity in a car factory. They use content to attract ad views.

But when Google uses their technology to view the Slimes spew (which they would produce anyway) they want a payday.

The Slimes doesn't want a solution to this problem. The solution is as old as .htaccess files.

They want a handout.

11 posted on 04/16/2009 12:55:12 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: a fool in paradise

A mixture of cyanide and arsnic ought to cure what ails the MSM and liberal rags.


12 posted on 04/16/2009 12:56:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Knitebane

“What the Slimes wants is for lots of people to come to their site and a view their ads. They are quite kind by collecting money from advertisers .... They use content to attract ad views.”

I have tried to tell people that whenever we “freep” some lame MSNBC poll, we increase the sites hit count and therefore its ad revenue. No one listens.


13 posted on 04/16/2009 1:20:47 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: a fool in paradise

My prescription for them would be administered with elderberry wine.


14 posted on 04/16/2009 1:33:29 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

They act as if the forged National Guard Memos (2004) and attacks on Sarah Palin (2008) were flukes. When they celebrated a criminal child molesting Democrat congressman who died the same week they were taking Mark Foley to task (in 2006) and used the same phrase of A Culture Of Corruption that they got from the DNC (and evidence came out of their collusion with Democrats on Foleygate), they exposed themselves to be nothing but yellow journalists in the service of The Party.


15 posted on 04/16/2009 1:34:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: Knitebane

Their chief complaint is that sites like FR take them to task for what we write.

Plain and simple. There are sites that have a “no except” policy. That means they don’t even want a hit.

There is plenty of original content on FR. FR threads get a “launching pad” for further discussion of and counter argument to the article posted (in full or excerpt).

When we do not have to excerpt, it makes it clear that an article has not been parsed to exhibit some passages “out of context”.

They take issue with FR. They blame the messenger, not just the click throughs.

MSNBC pointed out to web travellers when one of their polls had an FR thread asking FReepers to FReep it. They even gave a link back to said thread. And the FReepers let visitors know that all groups do this, there was no “dirty secret exposed”.


16 posted on 04/16/2009 1:39:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise

They deserve to be paid for it...


Not in my book they don’t. Why should we be expected to pay for biased reporting, fraudulent photoshopped photos, deliberate lies and propaganda? No thanks. Newspapers had their day and they blew it. Alternate sources have exposed the fraud and they no longer offer a product that can be trusted. The death of the big city newspapers can’t come soon enough for me.


17 posted on 04/16/2009 1:58:14 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: a fool in paradise
Half of our time is spent laughing at what they produce. It would be better, and people would pay for it, if it were actually news instead of slanted propaganda.

But then again, if it was not slanted propaganda, the newspapers wouldn't be in trouble.

18 posted on 04/16/2009 2:02:59 PM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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Newspaper journalists don’t think it’s all bad. They have engineered One Party Rule and One Voice Reporting. DHS has offered a proposal to criminalize dissent.

They almost hold all the cards.

If they can silence their detractors, they can still make money running interviews with Brad Pitt, Sean Penn, and Ben Affleck


19 posted on 04/16/2009 2:06:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Newspaper journalists don’t think it’s all bad.

Um, yeah, I imagine they will continue to think that right up to the day they get their pink slip and then they'll weep and moan that they don't understand why they are unemployed.

They may think they are powerful, they may have engineered one party rule, but if nobody pays for their stuff, they're unemployed, and are unemployable. Do you know any business person who will seriously consider anyone with the word "journalist" on their resume? LOL

20 posted on 04/16/2009 3:54:44 PM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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