Posted on 04/19/2009 9:14:22 AM PDT by UnalienablyRight
ABC's Sam Donaldson let a little of his inner-conspiracy theorist out this morning on This Week with George Stephanopoulos.
In a discussion of President Barack Obama's lessening the sanctions on Fidel Castro's Cuba, Donaldson began his analysis with one of a number a Kennedy-Truther notions that have been knocking around ever since President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963....
Another wild card in this crazy deck was Cuba's El Presidente, Castro. The theory being that Castro was upset with JFK's woefully planned and executed Bay of Pigs attempt at ending his nascent dictatorship, and therefore exacted his revenge by executing the 35th President.
Donaldson's buy-in for this house-of-cards game is apparently the Castro connection.
To wit:
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You said — I mean, how many guys are you going to find with that sort of a checkered past?
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Ummm..., someone who is a double-agent and works for the CIA... :-)
Technically, 9-11 *was* a conspiracy because any time two or more people work together to commit a crime, you have a conspiracy and at least 19 people certainly conspired to commit 9-11.
But I understand you meant whether it was a conspiracy by the U.S. government which, IMO, has no more credibility than Hurricane Katrina being a government conspiracy.
I don’t think it is worth equating 9-11 and JFK however. There are numerous credible connections between Oswald and powerful, secretive organizations whether they be the mob, KGB, CIA, etc. There is flat out nothing to suggest the Bush administration had anything to do with 9-11, nor any motivation to see thousands of Americans die just for an excuse to invade Iraq. The only culpability the Bush administration had was failure to connect the dots which makes sense when you realize Al Qaeda pulled off something that had never been done before in the history of mankind.
You said — I read somewhere that the Oswald who returned from the Soviet Union wasn’t the same one the entered..
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That could have “morphed” from the one I think was actually true. That is..., “Lee Oswald” was a name used by two different people (different middle name, though), and similar builds and heights, which the CIA used to get “Lee Harvey Oswald” into the Soviet Union as a double-agent (using the “particulars” for “cover” from the other “Lee Oswald”). And that’s why it’s been reported that “Lee Oswald” was sometimes seen in two different places (in the world) at the same time (there have been repeated instances of this).
So, in a “sense” the “Lee Harvey Oswald” that did return from the Soviet Union was *not* the same one that the Soviets thought they were getting. So, you could say, in a real “round-about-way” that he was not the same person that went in there..., he was a CIA double-agent, spying on the Soviets, from the inside, which is why he eventually “came back” to the United States...
You said — I do believe that the left wants to distance Communists from the JFK assassination.
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Well, you don’t have to do that, if you consider Lyndon Johnson part of the Communists... LOL...
I believe he had some good motive for being involved in the JFK Assassination, along with the Billie Sol Estes scandal, which was threatening to drag down LBJ and cause him to be taken off the Kennedy ticket, in the next election.
LBJ was reported to have said he was going to kill Kennedy and that he wasn’t going to be hung out to dry (about the Billie Sol Estes scandal), and also considering that Robert Kennedy was the Attorney General.... LOL...
Who had the most to gain?
LBJ.
Yep..., he was going to get dropped from the Kennedy ticket — and — he was going to end up going to jail for along time on the Billie Sol Estes scandal...
In a “real world sense” — LBJ had the most to gain and it makes the most sense...
Oh, come now! None of you seriously believe all this conspiratorial crap about JFK, do you? You’re drinking that lib kool-aid again....
This is nothing more than Sam Giancana and his band of mafia thugs. They expected to be free of law enforcement because Joe Kennedy sold the family’s souls to the “La Cosa Nostra” devil in exchange for political support.
JFK and RFK’s assassinations are linked together. Besides, JFK would’ve stayed out of WW3. Remember Bay of Pigs? JFK wasn’t relevant enough on the world stage to have the whole WORLD conspire against him in this way! It’s only the libs that want us all to believe that!
I read a post that was pulled earlier this morning that said one of the people involved with the “Passport Snooping” last year, was found dead. Of course, he was shot in the head and that could limit your ability to breather at some point.
But my question is: Who did that?
ALSO..., there is a connection with LBJ, the Billie Sol Estes scandal — and — the *second stand-in* for Oswald (the one the CIA used as “cover” for the real Lee Harvey Oswald, the one that fooled the Soviet Union with Lee Harvey Oswald being the CIA double-agent, to spy from inside the Soviet Union, which is why Oswald came back to the U.S.).
This “second” was part of the group that worked with LBJ and Billie Sol Estes. They probably used Oswald as a convenient patsy.
And that was why Oswald was a “cool cucumber” in the interrogation at the Dallas Police, because he knew that the information would come out that would clear him. And that’s why those guys had to get Ruby to kill Oswald, so that their scheme for getting rid of Kennedy wouldn’t be exposed...
Well..., that was a mouthful... LOL..
Without a shadow of doubt. Oswald killed Kennedy.
A lot of people believe this and let it end there.
This is like asking who killed Kirov?
Well, it was a young Ukranian man but really
it was Stalin.
The man and those who set him up were all killed in a
mysterious car crash on the way to the Lubyanka.
Ummm..., I shouldn’t have “spilled the beans” so much — I might be getting a knock at my door pretty soon... LOL...
Sam always kinda reminded me of Ted Baxter from “The Mary Tyler Moore show”.
Well, I believe there were two “Oswalds” and that played very conveniently into the hands of the conspirators... :-)
Also, I would say that there were, at least, two other shooters from the front, one over the railroad overpass and one behind the white picket fence in the railroad yard parking lot...
SO Oswald acted alone, and Jack Ruby was so distraught that he walked right up to him with LE all around and offed him. You think Ruby acted alone too?
There are so many theories, we will never know for sure. My best guess is it had to do with Kennedy taking on the Federal Reserve, the most corrupt business in the world.
You said — This is nothing more than Sam Giancana and his band of mafia thugs.
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Well, actually I think it was nothing more than LBJ and his band of mafia thugs... LOL...
You said — These people will NEVER admit this publicly, but the world needs to pay for what was done to JFK in their minds. WE’RE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DEATH in their minds. Why? Because no one was ever punished for his murder. 9/11? Hogwash. A great President was assassinated, and no one is seeking justice for him any longer! Those peasants that died in the towers? We’re going to WAR for those little people but we never went to WAR for JFK?
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Ummm..., I think you’re hyperventilating about now... LOL..
Actually, I think it’s really simple.
LBJ was caught up in the Billie Sol Estes scandal. He was going to be dropped from the Kennedy ticked, and Robert Kennedy was the Attorney General so he could start an investigation on LBJ to play a part in kicking LBJ off the ticket at the right time.
And LBJ already worked with Billie Sol Estes and had his gang for doing “business” around Texas, anyway. Along with that, you’ve got the unwitting patsy — Lee Harvey Oswald, who was a double-agent for the CIA in the Soviet Union. The CIA used a “second” for “cover” for Lee Harvey Oswald, to get Oswald into the Soviet Union without a lot of suspicion. That “second” (named Lee Oswald) was also working with Bille Sol Estes’ group and with LBJ and they “set up” the CIA double-agent Lee Harvey Oswald, very conveniently, knowing that it would be *easy* to bury the entire story, since the CIA would not want the “cover” to be blown concerning the actions of Lee Harvey Oswald as the CIA double-agent in the Soviet Union.
And so, when LBJ was President, he *buried* the whole thing with the Warren Commission...
And there you have it...
Sorry, there is ZERO credible evidence linking Oswald to powerful, secretive organizations. The KGB thought he was (correctly) a screwball and wanted nothing to do with him. He was an inconsequential, little worm.
You really need to get current with who and what Oswald really was. Read “Case Closed”, Oswald’s biography is fascinating, he’s the quintessential loser, NOT someone with ANY credible connections to powerful and secretive organizations like you suggest.
Wanna get in on the JFK assassination? :-)
That’s simple? Give me a BREAK!
look at my post 67. It’s WAAAAYYY simpler than yours.....
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