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Asia Times Online ^ | Saturday April 18, 2009 | Spengler

Posted on 04/19/2009 9:54:18 AM PDT by jpl

During the too-brief run of the Asia Times print edition in the 1990s, the newspaper asked me to write a humor column, and I chose the name "Spengler" as a joke - a columnist for an Asian daily using the name of the author of The Decline of the West.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: asiatimes; spengler
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David P. Goldman, the associate editor of First Things. Though some people were able to deduce this a while back from analyzing his various writings.
1 posted on 04/19/2009 9:54:18 AM PDT by jpl
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Vary cool, thanks for posting the link. My neighborhood chain bookstore has ceased carrying First Things, so I suppose it’s time to subscribe.

And no, I never was able to deduce the truth, and had never heard of David P. Goldman. Most of the speculation I read focused on slightly larger names from academics or the security community.


2 posted on 04/19/2009 10:59:04 AM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston

I think you meant “very,” idiot!!!


3 posted on 04/19/2009 11:04:18 AM PDT by YCTHouston
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Does anyone know how old Goldman is?

He indicates that he was at least a mid-level functionary in the Reagan Administration - it seems to me that that means he would have needed to have been about 30 or 35 in 1980, which would put his date of birth probably no later than the vicinity of 1945 to 1950 [and maybe a little earlier - I'd be surprised if he were born any later than 1955]?

But that's just a guess on my part.

4 posted on 04/19/2009 11:06:49 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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And I needed to tell the Americans that their smugness would be their undoing.

Yeah, a bit of humility never hurt anybody, Mr. Heep.
5 posted on 04/19/2009 11:18:10 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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Does anyone know how old Goldman is?

I'm pretty sure he's my age. The most direct and insightful essays I've ever read. When even bad tidings can bring pure joy, that's good writing.

6 posted on 04/19/2009 11:27:20 AM PDT by Seven plus One
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To: Seven plus One

Which would be how old? [Or were you being facetious?]


7 posted on 04/19/2009 11:30:54 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: jpl

What an interesting article! And I like the honor and respect he bestows upon our beloved, most gentle Pope. Thank you, sir. I hope to read more from you.


8 posted on 04/19/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Facetious? To the quick, you cut me. I'm fifty...ish.
9 posted on 04/19/2009 11:42:49 AM PDT by Seven plus One
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So you think that Goldman was more like 22 to 25 years old when he served in the Reagan Administration?

That seems rather young to me.

Remember - it's been almost 30 years [GASP!!!] since the Reagan Administration.

10 posted on 04/19/2009 11:56:30 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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Yep. He's a pretty intelligent guy. He travelled along with one of his mentors, who would have 'sponsored' him. I remember what I was doing in 1980, and if I were a genius his CV would have fit like a glove. Read This essay And you will see how the set of guys about my age and with similar thought calcification analyze the state we're in today. This blew my mind, I've been wondering for ten years now in this vein, and here it is in print. Wow.
11 posted on 04/19/2009 12:26:54 PM PDT by Seven plus One
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Don’t know about Goldman specifically, but the age-range of early/mid-twenties does fit the average up and coming policy analyst in the OEB.


12 posted on 04/19/2009 5:37:01 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: jpl

Thanks for posting. Interesting. Thanks to David P. Goldman, a.k.a Spengler, for his work!


13 posted on 04/19/2009 8:18:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

BTTT


14 posted on 04/19/2009 8:22:15 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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Late 50s.


15 posted on 04/20/2009 8:19:11 PM PDT by Spengler
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To: jpl; YCTHouston; KayEyeDoubleDee; Seven plus One; afraidfortherepublic; PGalt; Albion Wilde; ...

. . . A malicious thought crossed my mind in 1999, though, as the Internet euphoria engulfed world markets: was it really possible for a medium whose premise was the rise of a homogeneous global youth culture to drive world economic growth?

Youth culture, I argued, was an oxymoron, for culture itself was a bridge across generations, a means of cheating mortality. The old and angry cultures of the world, fighting for room to breath against the onset of globalization, would not go quietly into the homogenizer. Many of them would fight to survive, but fight in vain, for the tide of modernity could not be rolled back.

As in the great extinction of the tribes in late antiquity, individuals might save themselves from the incurable necrosis of their own ethnicity through adoption into the eternal people, that is, Israel. The great German-Jewish theologian and student of the existential angst of dying nations, Franz Rosenzweig, had commanded undivided attention during the 1990s, and I had a pair of essays about him for the Jewish-Christian Relations website. Rosenzweig's theology, it occurred to me, had broader applications.

The end of the old ethnicities, I believed, would dominate the cultural and strategic agenda of the next several decades. Great countries were failing of their will to live, and it was easy to imagine a world in which Japanese, German, Italian and Russian would turn into dying languages only a century hence. Modernity taxed the Muslim world even more severely, although the results sometimes were less obvious.

The 300 or so essays that I have published in this space since 1999 all proceeded from the theme formulated by Rosenzweig: the mortality of nations and its causes, Western secularism, Asian anomie, and unadaptable Islam.

Before she was banned from posting to MATT.org's now defunct and disappeared messageboard, I enjoyed a wonderful exchange with an incredibly articulate Mexican illegal immigrant living in the Chicago area who sustained herself by teaching Spanish and English. Languages in which she was equally fluent.

She was, and remains, I suppose, what she claimed to be: a Zapatista who foresees the collapse of the American Empire. She would have no problem defending the likes of Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales.

She, with her enchanting and incisively cutting wit, is probably enjoying our current difficulties and pointing out that as a debtor nation our debt holders, aka China, now have something significant to say about the course of our American future.

China is the piper playing the jig American politicians dance to, she might say.

Asia Time's Spengler is a treasure I wish had chosen to remain anonymous.

He reminds me of Kierkegaard's pseudonym Johannes Climacus, author of Philosophical Fragments and Concluding Unscientific Postscript

Why raise these issues under a pseudonym? There is a simple answer, and a less simple one. To inform a culture that it is going to die does not necessarily win friends, and what I needed to say would be hurtful to many readers. I needed to tell the Europeans that their post-national, secular dystopia was a death-trap whence no-one would get out alive.


16 posted on 04/21/2009 2:07:28 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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Links in my previous message were broken and bent back to FreeRepublic internals. These ought to work

He reminds me of Kierkegaard's pseudonym Johannes Climacus, author of Philosophical Fragments and Concluding Unscientific Postscript

17 posted on 04/21/2009 2:20:26 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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Thanks for the ping/post/links. Some very interesting reading there, as I have just read a bit of "Philosophical Fragments".

Asia Time's Spengler is a treasure...

Yes he is. (WOW! I did not know he was on the forum.)

18 posted on 04/21/2009 8:46:18 AM PDT by PGalt
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Thank you for the ping and post. I have much admired Spengler’s insightful writing. I wish him the best in his new publishing career. But I would also ask that he open himself to the possibility that the West might still pull up. History informs us, and repeats parts of itself, but never all of itself.


19 posted on 04/21/2009 11:42:30 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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Wow, I had no idea Spengler was a member here at F.R. either, and I too have admired his work for some time.

I also would like to believe that it isn't too late for America and the rest of the Judeo/Christian west either, but increasingly I am less and less sure.

I used to consider myself an optimist, but honestly I am so fearful of this guy we have elected that I'm not even certain that America as I have known it my whole life will even survive the next few years, much less the next few decades.

20 posted on 04/21/2009 11:59:14 AM PDT by jpl (Help us Obambi Wan Kenobi, you're our only dope.)
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