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To: BGHater
"In this era of national security issues, if we have a police officer detaining someone at a high profile target, it is in the best interests of the safety of that officer and this community to be able to quickly determine who that person is."

What if revealing your name might incriminate you? Doesn't the 5th amendment give every person the right to remain silent? If they want to know who you are, they can get a warrant and search you for your ID.

Of course, this would imply that in the future, every person would be required to have an official ID and carry it with them wherever they go. You already have to have an official ID to drive a car, as part of the "privilege".

Imagine if someone in our founder's day had decided people should be required to have a license in order to ride a horse? It is unthinkable.

8 posted on 04/20/2009 8:07:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
every person would be required to have an official ID and carry it with them wherever they go.

Incremental-ism - inch by inch, and step by step......your papers, please.

12 posted on 04/20/2009 8:14:35 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If they want to know who you are, they can get a warrant beat you senseless and search you for your ID.

More likely.

24 posted on 04/20/2009 8:22:43 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"In this era of national security issues, if we have a police officer detaining someone at a high profile target, it is in the best interests of the safety of that officer and this community to be able to quickly determine who that person is."

In other words, "we expect terrorists who may be planning on acts of subversion, sedition and sabotage to be otherwise truthful when confronted by police." In any event, I'm sure that moslems will be exempted before the bill reaches final form.

26 posted on 04/20/2009 8:22:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"What if revealing your name might incriminate you? Doesn't the 5th amendment give every person the right to remain silent?"

Nope, not anymore. SCOTUS weighed in with Hiibel v Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada

Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, 542 U.S. 177 (2004), held that statutes requiring suspects to identify themselves during police investigations did not violate either the Fourth or Fifth Amendments. Under the rubric of Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the minimal intrusion on a suspect's privacy and the legitimate need of law enforcement officers to quickly dispel suspicion that an individual is engaged in criminal activity justified asking a suspect to identify himself.

41 posted on 04/20/2009 9:06:30 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

>Doesn’t the 5th amendment give every person the right to remain silent?

Only after you are in custody and/or charged with a crime.
Until that they can demand some id.


90 posted on 04/20/2009 10:47:49 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Imagine if someone in our founder's day had decided people should be required to have a license in order to ride a horse? It is unthinkable.

OTOH, if you were riding a horse and lost control of it the horse didn't have a tendency to cause thousands of dollars of damage to someone else's property along with severe injury and/or death to others.

133 posted on 04/21/2009 10:32:03 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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