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To: AmericanHunter
Radical it may be but it is written into our founding documents which themselves were radical documents at the time.

...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Now it does say that this should not happen for "light and transient causes" and that this should only be a resort after "a long train of abuses and usurpations." We're only in the first 4 months of this administration and most of what Obama wants to do are still only proposals. We still have the 2010 elections before us and the 2012 elections after that so, while we reserve the right, as guaranteed in our founding documents, to "abolish" a government that has become destructive to our natural rights, we still have remedy within the existing system to prevent or correct the "usurpations" this administration desires to inflict upon us. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

17 posted on 04/22/2009 7:30:32 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
Now it does say that this should not happen for "light and transient causes" and that this should only be a resort after "a long train of abuses and usurpations." We're only in the first 4 months of this administration and most of what Obama wants to do are still only proposals. We still have the 2010 elections before us and the 2012 elections after that so, while we reserve the right, as guaranteed in our founding documents, to "abolish" a government that has become destructive to our natural rights, we still have remedy within the existing system to prevent or correct the "usurpations" this administration desires to inflict upon us. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Well I consider the train of abuses and ursurpations a very long one, indeed. To wit:

I could (and should, and will) go on, but the things I am incensed about are not products of Barry's three months as POTUS, or even Nancy's three years as Speaker. They are the fundamentals of the United Socialist State that FDR (principally) set up and stuck us with that the libtards insist we must make work, even though it is a fundamentally flawed and unconstitutional design. I for one no longer am intersted in arguing with illiterate non-citizen mobs who have seized control of LA and soon all of California and are busily bankrupting it, nor making deals with the corrupt East Coast politicians and their Wall Street handlers. I simply would like to reorganize into a polity that is smaller, more homogenuous, and not so full of imperial bluster. What good is the worlds mightiest military (in Iraq) when Arizona is subject to a kidnapping wave to equal anything seen in Bhagdad, 1/2 of my income goes to maintain the huge edifice of FedGov that does almost nothing postive for me, and meanwhile continually scolds me about everything from the propensity to "cling" to my guns to my proclivity for daily showers. What exactly are you waiting for? I don't get it. The end is here. Lets act while we can and salvage something for our children and grandchildren. We sure as hell can not salvage Los Angeles, New York or Massachusetts. Let it go, man, let it go. It is no good to force people who hate you to live by your rules. At best we are going to struggle to play king of the hill forever. Donkey's sway the stupid 10% and abortion is paid for, Reps sway em and it's not. Can you really say that another 10 or 20 years of this is going to do ANYTHING positive for us? I can not, and am happy to start discussing other options.

122 posted on 04/22/2009 9:03:39 AM PDT by Jack Black
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