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To: Eternal_Bear

And you think they could actually defeat us on our soil and keep an occupation force here? And what’s to prevent seceding states from banding together to form a new union based on the original intent of the Constitution?


18 posted on 04/22/2009 7:31:39 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin

Secession is the best answer. The South has the econmy, resources and is gaining the political will to make a better nation.


24 posted on 04/22/2009 7:36:52 AM PDT by drdirt333
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To: djsherin

If seceding states can band together to form a new union, then why secede at all? Why not work within the present system?


32 posted on 04/22/2009 7:43:47 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: djsherin
And you think they could actually defeat us on our soil and keep an occupation force here? And what’s to prevent seceding states from banding together to form a new union based on the original intent of the Constitution?

Yep 65 million firearms owners would probably have a problem with an invasion...

214 posted on 04/22/2009 12:14:59 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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“And you think they could actually defeat us on our soil and keep an occupation force here? And what’s to prevent seceding states from banding together to form a new union based on the original intent of the Constitution?”

The the one and only time this happened it had far reaching consequences that we are still feeling.

From a political economic sense, the Confederacy had not a snowballs chance in hell to survive even if it had not instigated open war. Why? Because even in the best of circumstances, any new government is weak until it can consolidate its governance, form policy and implement it, and establish a reliable revenue stream. In a more realistic sense, there are things like struggles for power, poor reactions to bad situations, conflicting opinions about what that governemnt should look like, with some going off angry and taking advantage of the weakness, etc... When a break up is ugly, it’s kind of like a messy divorce and when there’s 100’s of millions of people involved on both side of the messy divorce, there’s bound to be things happen that no one can forsee or control. That is exactly what happened to them, and war was the inevitable result when they were least ready to handle it.

It was also economically lopsided. One of the arguments for ending slavery was that it was far more economical to hire seasonal workers than it was to take care of slaves on an annual basis, and trouncing on the theories of the Declaration so they can sap the economy with their very bad habits was unjustified.

They had very little support from trading partners because they had no money, their economy was a mess from secession itself and they were fighting a war. This is an aside from other problems such as trade partners not wanting to be found on the wrong side and be punished for it later.

Political unrest of that magnitude makes terrible economic sense, more than likely even worse than than trying to deal with the mess we currently have if we did or said nothing about what our government is doing.

And then we have to worry about what happens if it fails, which it has a very large probability. The fall of the Confederacy started the first death convulsions of Federalism as it was known, and started us on that slippery slope to despotism by rule of law with each new crisis being an excuse to errode it even more. Perhaps at the end of it, what America looks like will be far worse than we could ever imagine.


275 posted on 04/22/2009 1:28:49 PM PDT by dajeeps
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