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Timing Immigration Reform
Washington Post ^ | April 23, 2009 | T. Alexander Aleinikoff

Posted on 04/23/2009 8:05:36 AM PDT by La Lydia

The Obama administration recently signaled interest in beginning a discussion on comprehensive immigration reform before year's end. It might seem that a severe economic downtown is not the best time for a major legislative initiative on immigration. But starting this conversation now makes sense for several reasons....

Republican opposition to an "amnesty" program was a major reason for the defeat of the 2007 reform proposal. The economic crisis is sure to fuel that same opposition: Why, it will be asked, should we give undocumented workers a legal status that permits them to compete for jobs with unemployed Americans? Some of the short-term answers will be persuasive. A legalization program, by taking workers out of the shadows, will free up the entrepreneurial spirit of individuals who have already shown motivation and hard work in coming to the United States...

Another benefit of beginning work on immigration reform now is that immigration raids on workplaces and communities could stop...The substantial lead time needed for creating a credible verification system and an effective legalization program provides another argument for beginning the conversation on comprehensive immigration legislation soon. And by the time these new programs would come into force, improvement in the economy would probably make legalization efforts less controversial.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bho44; democrats; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration
This puke is the dean of Georgetown University Law School. He is a Senior Associate at the open-borders Migration Policy Institute. Before that, he was an associate commissioner and general counsel at INS under open-border Doris Meissner, on whose watch during the Clinton administration our borders were opened wide for all to enter, and enforcement was a joke even among those who worked enforcement jobs at the agency. He is among the last people on earth that we should be listening to on immigration policy. But he has kindly laid out their agenda and schedule for all to behold.
1 posted on 04/23/2009 8:05:36 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

But Zero is the messiah...he does no wrong!


2 posted on 04/23/2009 8:08:10 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: La Lydia

What country did this guy sneak in from?


3 posted on 04/23/2009 8:10:42 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: La Lydia
This puke, T. Alexander Aleinikoff , is the dean of Georgetown University Law School. He is a Senior Associate at the open-borders Migration Policy Institute. Before that, he was an associate commissioner and general counsel at INS under open-border Doris Meissner, on whose watch during the Clinton administration our borders were opened wide for all to enter, and enforcement was a joke even among those who worked enforcement jobs at the agency. He is among the last people on earth that we should be listening to on immigration policy. But he has kindly laid out their agenda and schedule for all to behold.

Need to post it so it will show up in a google search!!

4 posted on 04/23/2009 8:11:43 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: La Lydia
The Obama administration recently signaled interest in beginning a discussion on comprehensive immigration reform before year's end. It might seem that a severe economic downtown is not the best time for a major legislative initiative on immigration. But starting this conversation now makes sense for several reasons.... Republican opposition to an "amnesty" program was a major reason for the defeat of the 2007 reform proposal. The economic crisis is sure to fuel that same opposition: Why, it will be asked, should we give undocumented workers a legal status that permits them to compete for jobs with unemployed Americans? Some of the short-term answers will be persuasive. A legalization program, by taking workers out of the shadows, will free up the entrepreneurial spirit of individuals who have already shown motivation and hard work in coming to the United States... Another benefit of beginning work on immigration reform now is that immigration raids on workplaces and communities could stop...The substantial lead time needed for creating a credible verification system and an effective legalization program provides another argument for beginning the conversation on comprehensive immigration legislation soon. And by the time these new programs would come into force, improvement in the economy would probably make legalization efforts less controversial.

"It's a great time to push immigration reform because we can do it while nobody is looking."

5 posted on 04/23/2009 8:18:42 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: La Lydia
The substantial lead time needed for creating a credible verification system and an effective legalization program provides anoth...

Dear Comrade Aleinikoff,
There is already a system of legalization, whether it is effective or not is up to the government. But, of course, the way to get MORE laws and LESS freedom is to:

Step 1: Ignore the laws already on the books.
Step 2: Declare a crisis
Step 3: Do not waste the created crisis and go ahead and push your agenda.

6 posted on 04/23/2009 8:18:54 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: org.whodat

individuals who have “already shown motivation and hard work” in coming to the United States... Wonder what he has to say about a bank robber? Hard working freelance wealth redistributor?


7 posted on 04/23/2009 8:19:38 AM PDT by anglian
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To: La Lydia
"Republican opposition to an "amnesty" program was a major reason for the defeat of the 2007 reform proposal."

No sir, I very much beg to disagree with your premise, that mere "Republican opposition" was the reason for the defeat of the Bush/McCain/Brownback/Shamnesty bill -- what happened to the Republican Party after their attempts to shove it down our throats -- THEY WERE DEFEATED in 2008!

Yes, many RINOs did back down but as a county Republican officer during the past election, I can definitely state that even with the Marxist/Obama ticket, many of our most passionate conservative voters just could hardly bring themselves to vote for McCain in KS, they only gave cash to the locals running.

During the Republican Primary here, McCain came in THIRD - one could hardly give him a resounding applause.

What defeated Shamnesty were many Democrats residing in conservative areas who backed away from the Shamnesty bill, hearing themselves being bashed on talk radio and they were the ones who helped turn the tide.

It's doubtful that that will happen again what with the total Big Brother Socialist government we now have, though Harry Reid just might have second thoughts, what with his reelection in the offing in 16 months.

8 posted on 04/23/2009 8:22:03 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: La Lydia

In my experience politicians dont think in these terms. The first thing that will be on their minds is how bringing this up will affect the midterm elections.

He can have the most brilliant arguments in the world. If he cant convince them that the legislation is neutral or beneficial to their electoral prospects, it’s likely to be all, well, academic.


9 posted on 04/23/2009 8:22:24 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: La Lydia

No mention of the fact that legalizing the status of the 10 to 12 million [a lowball estimate] would enable, according to Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation, those legalized to sponsor another 66 MILLION MORE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification.


10 posted on 04/23/2009 8:23:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: org.whodat

Forgot to mention that he was one of the guiding lights of VP Algore’s “Citizenship USA,” the hurry-up-and grant citizenship-to-a-million illegal aliens-so-they-can-vote, without FBI background checks and without determining whether they had criminal records. About 100,000 of our new citizens turned out to be convicted felons.


11 posted on 04/23/2009 8:49:38 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

This puke is the dean of Georgetown University Law School. He is a Senior Associate at the open-borders Migration Policy Institute.

This article is total rationalization. There is absolutely nothing here except rationalized bigoted agenda.

The United States already has solid immigration laws. My neighbors, good, hard working business owners are immigrants, from Italy and Algeria. They came through the front door like every other legitimate immigrant, green card for years, then english test, citizenship test, swearing in. There is already a front door. Any Mexican just like any Lithuanian, or any Nigerian, or any Australian, is to come through the front door, proving their worth, and proving their loyalty (like incidentally any other developed nation in a crowded world, and like you and I must).

This author really is a bigot, rationalizing through this writing, a preformed agenda in his own mind. Why wouldn't he discuss for instance the validity of the immigration laws already in place? Or why wouldn't he discuss the possibility of temporary worker gates, and internal tracking, at the Mexican border? Or why wouldn't he discuss the disaster of present day (and historically) Mexico, a totally feudal state which should be isolated to get its own society in order? It is because he is of limited, agenda-ridden mind.

Clearly the whole issue termed "immigration reform" is a verbal front for a hidden agenda. An agenda to herd in to the United States a voting block for Democrats. It is obvious this is the case in this man's mind by the reference, as a poster above says, to "Republicans" when that was not the case at all. He is trying to "bait and switch" the discussion. (which incidentally is criminal mindset).

In another post today, conservatives that we are, Sharpton is correct in that we are dealing with truly arrogant bigots, the Ivy elite, the CFR; good at rationalization, but bigots all the nonetheless. Clinton, especially Hilary, is a great example. Rahm Emmanuel is just too obvious.

You heard it from the Suntrade Institute, far far beyond the Brookings jerks.

Johnny Suntrade

12 posted on 04/23/2009 9:11:13 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: zerosix

The democrats are going to ram something really bad down our throats and there is next to nothing we can do about it.


13 posted on 04/23/2009 9:18:41 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: La Lydia

“Forgot to mention that he was one of the guiding lights of VP Algore’s “Citizenship USA,” This seems like a good time to post a little bit more about this. The 684-page INS inspector general report’s most stunning allegation — that the Clinton-Gore White House had hijacked the INS for partisan political purposes in what amounted to massive voter fraud — never emerged as a campaign issue until after election day, when it became evident that Al Gore owed his near-victory in Florida to hundreds of thousands of newly-minted citizens in Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties.
According to the IG report, many of those new voters should never have been granted citizenship. Some were convicted felons. Others had overstayed tourist visas and were working illegally. Close to 200,000 never underwent any background check,(there was testimony about how the background check requests were just thrown away) so INS does not know to this day whether they were eligible for citizenship. Few passed an English language and citizenship test worthy of the name. Some could not understand their own swearing-in, because the ceremony was conducted in English.
“Rep. Rahm Emanuel is ducking questions about his role in the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s Citizenship USA Initiative, which he helped direct back in 1996 during the Clinton Administration.”

Emanuel was identified in a 2000 DOJ Inspector General report as a key player in a taxpayer-funded scheme to fast-track legal and illegal immigrants through any means possible for citizenship so that they could vote for the Democrat party. The program was called Citizenship USA. . . . http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852305/posts


14 posted on 04/23/2009 9:47:25 AM PDT by anglian (0bama's Stealth Reparations: "Mouthfulls of 'Gimme' and handfulls of 'Much 0bliged'")
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To: staytrue
Well, I for one, have no intention on quietly standing by and taking it -- sound's like a "TEA Party" for Schamnesty II and I believe that all of the conservative talk show hosts will help us out.

A local radio semi-conservative host pretended that people weren't sure what to do next, when I phoned and told him that just the past week, three local small cities turned out their "popular" Mayors and City Councils because people and tired of their tax and spend policies on such things as re-doing city park toilets merely to put baby changing tables in the men's toilets as well as spending on "seasonal flags" to be posted as warranted, redoing curbs when not needed merely to assure that their tax dollars would not go down in the next fiscal year.

The talk show host had to speed to the next commercial but I made my point that we need not wait to see what would the T.E.A. Party folk would do next as we had already done it the week before - in three small communities.

15 posted on 04/23/2009 10:14:53 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


16 posted on 04/23/2009 12:06:30 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: zerosix

In the People’s Republic of Northern Virginia, where I live (a town that was surveyed and laid out by George Washington), local government is spending a huge amount of money to build “affordable housing” for illegal immigrants in places where there is little or no public transportation, and has condemned and and taken off the tax rolls a significant number of small businesses in order to tear down their buildings and build a bigger parking lot for a park so dangerous that only illegals use it, right there in the same neighborhood. The immigrants set up “ropa usada” (used clothing) stands in the park, near the unused tennis courts. The State of Virginia welfare department runs ads on Spanish TV and radio stations seeking new clients (parasites) to enroll. Johns Hopkins runs ads for their free health clinics for illegals. Welcome to the new, foreign America, replete with parasites, demagoguery and socialism. I think we are fighting a losing battle.


17 posted on 04/24/2009 7:04:41 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
I'm praying that you do NOT lose hope. There is a way but it's going to take a lot more of your fellow citizens getting up in arms against what the evil, unelected bureaucrats are doing, with the encouragement and help from your elected "representatives."

Write editorials, join website blogs, talk up to your friends, family and co-workers this abomination!

One gift that the liberals and RINOs are giving us = higher unemployment among especially those who voted FOR Obama and are his biggest supporters. Once they begin to watch their jobs disappear, their energy bills shoot sky high, gas taxes to skyrocket, taking along with them all costs of food, clothing and everything else, not to mention the already high tax on cigarettes, we have the entire block of brain-numbed Obama worshipers.

Obama promises us that "things are going to get worse before they get better" and he really means it as that is the only way that Marxists get the masses to march along with Big Brother.

Americans are much too individualistic, however, for the same approach that worked so well in Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba and elsewhere. Sooner or later even those who only care about what hip hop artist, which American Idol "star" or else, is doing on any given weekend, when they are freezing in their own homes, or dying from the heat without the funds to pay their gas and electric bills, FINALLY many will resist.

Sorry for sounding the doom and gloom but our "elected representatives" only care about their next election and not one whit about true "representative" government to do the right thing. It's time to clean house and call in the "Orkin Man" to rid the vermin from the top.

18 posted on 04/24/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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