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Obvious gun holders no threat
Badger Herald ^ | April 23, 2009 | Jason Smathers

Posted on 04/23/2009 6:09:30 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: AZ .44 MAG

They’ll have your profile in every squad car if it’s up to thaem.


21 posted on 04/23/2009 6:34:18 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: SJackson
SJackson said: "While I disagree with his tone at several points, this is a legitimate criticism of open carry. "

No, it is not.

You don't suppose that the cops are going to be arresting each other, do you? That is because they presume that another uniformed officer is justified in carrying his weapon openly on his hip. All the cops have to do is recognize that every law-abiding citizen is justified in carrying his weapon openly on his hip also.

It's really not that complicated. Just treat every law-abiding citizen with the same consideration that you would a uniformed cop.

It's about time that the cops started recognizing who is the master and who is the servant.

22 posted on 04/23/2009 6:37:25 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: SJackson
Deal with them first. The man doing lawn work isn’t a threat — he’s just obnoxious.

NO the obnoxious one is you,you eliteist twit.

23 posted on 04/23/2009 6:39:17 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
2ndDivisionVet said: "My father’s generation defeated Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, all at the same time!!

The transformation that you have described is, unfortunately, only cured by massive suffering. The cost may be paid many generations from now in the blood of our descendants, when the loss of liberty, typically tolerated for temporary security, fails to even put food on the table.

24 posted on 04/23/2009 6:45:22 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: SJackson
Once someone has a gun in public, one of two things happens: They either take it out and start shooting people or they beam with pride as they test the produce.

There is a third possiblity; they may be in the right place at the right time to stop the person he describes in alternate one- the one that starts shooting random people.

25 posted on 04/23/2009 6:50:24 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: William Tell

“An armed society is a polite society” I find that whether you are at the gun club or in a part of the woods where half the people are carrying firearms that this is a very true statement.


26 posted on 04/23/2009 6:50:59 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: CindyDawg

Actually some places had very strict local firearms laws- many towns did not allow you to carry in town in any fashion. Other than that I imagine they waited to see if you were up to no good or not. What a concept.


27 posted on 04/23/2009 6:52:43 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: mvpel

“In Virginia, two young men collected a total of $25,000 in settlements from the City of Norfolk”

Was that for carrying guns openly or something else?


28 posted on 04/23/2009 7:04:37 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: SJackson
They'll have your profile in every squad car if it's up to thaem.

They probably already do and most of the profiles are probably pretty close to the drivers of the squad cars. A LOT of them are former military and conservative. At least the ones I've met in Arizona.

29 posted on 04/23/2009 7:16:45 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: CindyDawg
Words and deeds are the calling card of any man's character. That's part of it. That and probably honed senses of the Sheriff, for who's good, and who needs an eye kept on them.

And some places (towns or establishments) required you to check your gun at the door, or town limits. You were free to pick them back up on your way out.

30 posted on 04/23/2009 7:20:39 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: mvpel
In Virginia, two young men collected a total of $25,000 in settlements from the City of Norfolk within a span of six months.

We're going to spend a weekend with some friends in Milwaukee next month. I could use a bit of extra cash and don't mind going through both the Wisconsin State Courts and the Federal Courts.

I think it would be kind of cool to have a former big city Police Chief mowing my lawn and cleaning my pool for me. Not to mention I could find a use for a few hundred thousand extra dollars...

L

31 posted on 04/23/2009 7:22:51 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SJackson

He’s not obnoxious for exercising his Federally-protected constitutional right, his state-protected constitutional right. Too bad if you have a personal problem with someone exercising a constitutional right. Nobody says you have to carry.

That’s like saying voters are obnoxious simply for voting. That’s like saying Christians are obnoxious simply for going to church. That’s like say, well, columnists such as this putz are obnoxious simply for writing.

What an utter idiot.


32 posted on 04/23/2009 7:49:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: AFreeBird

There is pre-emption law in the WI state constitution. Local govts cannot make laws that deprive citizens of their state constitutionally-protected rights.


33 posted on 04/23/2009 7:52:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SJackson

WI needs Concealed Carry Law.


34 posted on 04/23/2009 9:29:24 PM PDT by pankot
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To: webstersII
Was that for carrying guns openly or something else?

Open carry harassment. One of them was a "black man with a gun." It appears that $10,000 and $15,000 is what they offer when they just detain you, rather than "put you on the ground" (assault & battery), so I expect that a settlement from these guys will be much higher. Another fellow won a settlement from Gonzalez, Louisiana's police department.

35 posted on 04/24/2009 2:44:07 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: webstersII

Check out http://www.opencarry.org/


36 posted on 04/24/2009 2:46:50 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SandWMan

Well, it’s “Hear, Hear!!”, and is used (usually in conjuction with desk-thumping) to cheer on a point made during a speech in most Parliaments and many other legislative bodies.

It’s a civilized cheer for a speech, as opposed to whistles and hoots.


37 posted on 04/24/2009 3:10:50 AM PDT by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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To: SJackson

And that was the first manifestation of the difference between the urban and rural environments. It was taken as a plain truth back then that everyone had the right to carry a gun when out on the trail, as there were so many potential hazards. However, it might not be a good idea to have a saloon full of drunken brawlers with guns when they came into town for some R&R. Hence, the Sheriff might keep everyone’s guns in his office while they had a good time.


38 posted on 04/24/2009 5:49:13 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: SJackson
I’ve got serious offenders with access to handguns. It’s irresponsible to send a message to them that if they just carry it openly no one can bother them.”

This police chief seems to lack the minimum IQ needed for the job. He's admitting that "serious offenders" already have access to guns. Presumably he realizes that he and his "troops" are not presently free to "take down" people who they recognize as having previous criminal convictions just for walking down the street with no visible weapons. But somehow he imagines that allowing open-carry will increase the ability of "serious offenders" to go about the city in possession of guns. Does he actually not get what the baggy-saggy pants fashion is about?

39 posted on 04/24/2009 9:45:32 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is also the author’s federally-protected Constitutional right to view open-carry in supermarkets and while mowing one’s lawn as “obnoxious”, and to share that view with the general public. He is simultaneously recognizing that there’s no rational basis for outlawing this form of “obnoxiousness”.

His approach is more likely than yours to convert people who oppose the attorney general’s position, into people who support it. He’s writing for a college audience, and it’s certain that a majority of Wisconsin college students think people who open-carry in situations where there’s no particular threat are “obnoxious”. He’s telling them, “Yes, fine, I hear you, that’s what I personally think of them too. But here’s why you still shouldn’t be opposed to the AG’s recently pronouncement that open-carry is perfectly legal.”


40 posted on 04/24/2009 9:57:25 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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