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Obama Supporters Move to use Massachusetts as test case for gun confiscation
The Nav Log ^ | 4/25/09

Posted on 04/25/2009 4:35:52 PM PDT by pabianice

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To: mtdrake

I pray every day that I do not have to make a desiccion like that but I think I will do what I have to do if they come to my door. If I know there coming I’ll have more options though.


41 posted on 04/25/2009 6:12:13 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: mtdrake

mtdrake: “I am very seriously curious about just how many gun owning Americans will actually take a do or die stand and shoot any thug who attempts to take their guns away?”

Excellent question. I’m a Christian, so I believe I’m supposed to obey the laws of the land. There are exceptions, like a law that would require me to violate God’s laws, but I would comply with gun control.

However, I wonder how many other folks would do or die over gun control. I suspect most Americans would either turn in their guns or hide them. If someone resisted a search, it would be their family against legions of law enforcement officers. I just don’t think that many folks would sacrifice themselves and their families in such circumstances.


42 posted on 04/25/2009 6:16:31 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: pabianice

There will be a revolution should confiscation ever be attempted. Count on it. There is a reason for the ammo shortage. Only half of America are Obamabots, the rest of us are old fashioned Americans who know what The Constitution says. Laws that are unConstitutional are null and void and illegal.


43 posted on 04/25/2009 6:24:07 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: CurlyDave

The Heller decision left plenty of room to restrict firearms in multiple ways. Incorporation doesn’t prohibit that. It merely states the municipalities and states cannot restrict your right to keep and bear arms. However, Heller leaves plenty of running room to say how those firearms and ammunition can be regulated.


44 posted on 04/25/2009 6:27:23 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Travis McGee
ping...
45 posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: CitizenUSA

CitizenUSA, I too consider myself a Christian. I too am concerned for my family (I do not have children), as well as everyone’s family. My question really boils down to this: How many Americans, gun owners or not, would be willing to allow their government to take away their God given and constitutionally gauranteed rights? How many Americans are willing to live under a tyranical government? I am not, not under any circumstance. I consider it my duty to fight and even die protecting our freedoms if they are taken from us. I firmly do not believe that being a Christian precludes anyone from fighting for their freedom.

First and foremost I pray that the day never comes when I will need to take this stand. Not for myself, but for my country’s sake. If and when that day does come I then pray that there will be enough Americans who will be willing to kill and die standing and fighting rather than live under tyrany.


46 posted on 04/25/2009 6:36:49 PM PDT by mtdrake
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To: mtdrake
I am very deadly serious about this. I will willingly shoot to kill, and thus be willing to die fighting for my freedom, anybody who tries to take my guns.

Maybe lots of folks will decide we shouldn't wait to shoot those who come to take the guns, just actively hunt the bastards who pass the bill.

47 posted on 04/25/2009 6:43:41 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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48 posted on 04/25/2009 6:48:57 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: CitizenUSA
Make a felon out of me with draconian unConstitutional laws.

See what happens!

49 posted on 04/25/2009 6:51:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: B Knotts
I suspect if this is passed, it will be before the Court fairly quickly

a few million bucks and twenty yrs later, wake me for the ruling...

on the bright side, shortly, a few million bucks will be pocket money, and might even buy a tank of gas...

50 posted on 04/25/2009 6:54:18 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: xmission

They have considered all options and aspects in my opinion.


51 posted on 04/25/2009 6:55:14 PM PDT by sport
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To: MHGinTN
yep, the contract is null and void...which means we get to pick and choose what rules to follow...

tag says it all...

52 posted on 04/25/2009 6:58:18 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: pabianice
The NRA is still offering free one year memberships:

http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/

The same offer allows you to purchase multi-year memberships at significantly reduced prices: life memberships for only $500, and two year memberships for only $25.

53 posted on 04/25/2009 6:59:34 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
you assume future 'elections' from that perspective...

remember, bagdads HUSSEIN won every election too...

54 posted on 04/25/2009 7:00:18 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: mtdrake
I am very seriously curious about just how many gun owning Americans will actually take a do or die stand and shoot any thug who attempts to take their guns away?

I will have no problem elevating my front yard to the historical equivalent of Fort Sumter.

55 posted on 04/25/2009 7:04:47 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ConservaTexan

You have to remember, the thugs won’t play nice. They’ll smash their way in at 0-dark-30 while you’re in bed (because real Americans...um...HAVE JOBS). Just pointing out that preparedness should go a little farther when talking about totalitarians.


56 posted on 04/25/2009 7:06:52 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: mtdrake

They[ gun owners] are going to die right after their guns are taken.

They [gun owners] have one of two options:
1. Die fighting as a free man/woman.
2. Being worked , starved, or beaten to death in one of obama’s concentration ...er “re-education” camps.


57 posted on 04/25/2009 7:08:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Could be, and prudence would demand that we treat it as such. It could also be the result of a childish Rat who looked at the Tea Parties, blew a gasket, and said, “I’ll show them...I’ll take their guns away!”


58 posted on 04/25/2009 7:09:37 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: Windcatcher

For those that may not know, the picture with the Texas flag and the 1824 flag has an interesting story. In 1824, Texas was part of Mexico. That same year, a Constitution was put in place that allowed the settlers the right to self defense. The govt. of Mexico gave a cannon to a town in Texas (Can’t remember which one now) to defend against marauding Indians. General Santa Ana took power over Mexico and let the Texans know that they had to give the cannon back. So the Texans made a flag with the cannon and the year 1824 to remind the dictator that they had a deal under the 1824 Constitution. The phrase “Come and Take it” explains itself. May be a case of history repeating itself. Santa Anna got his ass kicked at the battle of San Jacinto. Read up on the history on that one. Not taught in School (except in Texas)..


59 posted on 04/25/2009 7:12:45 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: CitizenUSA
I’m a Christian, so I believe I’m supposed to obey the laws of the land.

as stated earlier, the Republic was built on the rule of law as in a contract between the People and those assigned to Govern it according to the Constitution...

all those so assigned, swear an Oath to uphold that contract...once they break their oath and willfully disregard the very basis for the rule of law, ie the Constitution, then there is simply no 'law of the land'...rather what you have is 'decrees from the masters'...

being a Christian myself, I dont believe Lord Jesus would have us follow blindly those who are so obviously evil men...

60 posted on 04/25/2009 7:13:31 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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