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To: Cheetahcat; NorwegianViking; 240B

Before I relocated to the Sunshine State, I had considerable teaching experience in the Garden State (N.J.), and had many black students in my classes. Most were totally unprepared for college level study. But this was part of the supposedly unconstitutional ‘quota’ system. I shared my concerns with various other teachers and directors of admissions but the near-universal response was a shrug of the shoulders and a reply that they were forced to put up with this for political/funding reasons. I tried, as best I could, to persuade them that this was grossly unfair to the very minority students that were supposed to be advanced and that, in effect, we were promoting the wrong values and motivations - namely, that one was ENTITITLED to be present and promoted because of past injustices and their race, and not because of present abilities and aspirations that required hard work and effort. I learned that logic and facts were of no importance. It didn’t matter that a huge number of the unprepared and unqualified had high drop-out rates; that they scored terribly on their GRE’s, that if they were (preferentially) admitted to graduate or professional schools, few finished. AND, that all this took place within the context of every effort being made to ‘push’ them through so the college could boast about and show the political establishment what a great job was being done with minority students. I apologize for the length of my reply (I could go on and on!) but I want to stress how unjust and politicized our present approach is to all concerned and our society. Thanks for your patience!


12 posted on 04/25/2009 8:42:06 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I once attended a law school in a post-graduate level. 50% of my class was black.

Some of them were great but a couple of the black students were what I call “angry entitled”. Not only were they there on grant (not paying) but they were belligerent ignorant. They would loudly ‘AX’ questions and would get angry when their two paragraph legal dissertation got an undeserved ‘C’.

When they couldn’t understand something they got ghetto angry at the whole concept. Man you be tripin’ dat some stupid ass s t man.

They did not belong there and basically disrupted the whole class.

But of course they passed and graduated with the rest of us. And I am sure that their whole career will have people covering and tiptoing around them. And they will know it, expect it, and like it. Se la vie


14 posted on 04/25/2009 9:14:02 PM PDT by 240B (i will not pay my mortgage until i get free money from Obama)
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To: T.L.Sink
Thank you for your Post,These people are without shame only hate for the achievers from all the humiliation of busing,Complete middle class Neighborhoods turned into dumps ,schools that look like prisons ,reverse discrimination by our worthless government ,the riots looting and murders.

..In the Middle East the joke is everyplace they go there are problems.

16 posted on 04/25/2009 9:57:40 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: T.L.Sink
one was ENTITITLED to be present and promoted because of past injustices and their race, and not because of present abilities and aspirations that required hard work and effort

Why do you think the IRS/Fed. Government is overrun with ignorant people?! It sure as hell isn't because they know what they are doing there! Don't even get me started on this subject!

19 posted on 04/25/2009 10:42:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: T.L.Sink
Found a college professor....Great!

When I applied for the UH as a returning vet with a NY State Regents diploma and a graduation diploma from the Defense Language Institute for which I was awarded 5 points. I was enrolled, glad to be there and succeeded. But after I was there I discovered that if I was black or any other minority, I'd have been given 10 points, a female, 5 points and the points system favored anyone who could prove some disability or social status. Points....

It was the same process for grad school.....with GPA a secondary standard.
21 posted on 04/25/2009 11:00:42 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: T.L.Sink
You have no reason at all to apologize. As much as we may cringe at what's going on in the so-called academic world, we learn by first-hand information.

There has to be a way to stop it, along with the other anti-American pursuits by the governments, media and academia.

Short of a revolution, I don't know the solution.

24 posted on 04/25/2009 11:42:39 PM PDT by IIntense
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