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To: SeattleBruce
I think the liberal dream is to keep conservatives and independents well away from each other and maintain power for the next 25 years.

Close to half of the independents ARE the Conservatives. Where do you think all the Republicans have gone?

(i.e. we can hold our own on the social issues, whilst not focusing on them to the detriment of the movement.)

Big mistake. I am a Reaganite, and as such, I know that the winning strategy is to stand on Conservative principles. ALL of them. To suggest that "social issues" are to the "detriment of the movement" is wholly and utterly false.

Social issues govern the votes of the largest segment of the Conservative movement. Do you expect them to "shut up and vote", while their issues are tamped down out of sight?

The issues you champion are good issues, don't get me wrong, but not any better as issues than the rest of the principled stands that Reagan Conservatives have promised to defend among the three pillars.

145 posted on 04/28/2009 2:20:16 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

“Close to half of the independents ARE the Conservatives. Where do you think all the Republicans have gone?”

OK, but conservatives (I am one) haven’t figured out a way to win many competitive races since about 1994 - or perhaps we just didn’t know how to govern and hold our own party together. So we need to figure out a way to coalesce with the other independents - the so called Reagan Democrats. How would you suggest we do that now? We can either remake the Republican Party, or start a powerful 3rd party movement (remake the Republican Party by a different name). So let’s you and me not split hairs here. :)

“To suggest that “social issues” are to the “detriment of the movement” is wholly and utterly false.”

Listen to what I said - ‘whilst not focusing on them...to the detriment of the party.’ While not focusing on them, to such a degree and with such an intensity, that those social issues end of peeling away people that are not as inclined to them as we are. That is not to say that we are not standing up for them, or standing on our principles as social and fiscal conservatives. But it is saying we need to find a way to coalesce with the Reagan Democrats again - how would you suggest we do that? I think Reagan did it well - with his populism and optimism. That’s the difference, see. Reagan knew how to focus on populism, while still standing on socially conservative values like pro-life. He didn’t focus on them to such an extent that he limited to too great a degree his populist message with Reagan Democrats. We need to re-learn that approach. That’s really my point, I suppose.

That said, I’ve marched in pickets at Valley Hospital in Kent, WA and stood in pickets in Olympia protesting abortion and adovcating for the sacredness of life. You can do both well.

Regards!


146 posted on 04/28/2009 4:41:45 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back!)
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