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To: mysterio
Another strawman. For sake of expedience, I won't be responding to strawmen after this one. However, I will clarify one last time : I have no problem with protecting our nation against outside threats. I do have a problem with ZEALOTRY. Witch hunts are zealotry.

There is a bad tendency on FR for people to mislabel anything that refutes their point as a straw-man. The reference to today's Wahhabi's is a direct analogy to the International Communist movement of the 1950's. Hardly a phony argument created by myself in order that I might then defeat said argument (the actual definition of a straw-man argument).

The anticommunists were not zealots. They were anticommunists, trying to expose the very real and very serious threat posed by a secret, well orchestrated and well funded movement to spread a philosophy which was at its core mutually exclusive to freedom and sought the ultimate demise of our republic (much like Wahhabi's).

You keep voicing the only real defense that the communists had, which was that they were the victims of harsh government overreach, a tactic taught to them by their commissars. Not unlike the Wahabists. Go figure.

Communism ended up spreading to southeast Asia and to central America. We didn't stop it or even slow it down. The only reason communism has failed in a lot of those places is because communism doesn't work.

You have a highly flawed understanding of history and the events which occurred. That is too bad. People who don't know history have no basis for current action. With you totally ignoring historical facts you are in a bit of a fantasy world. Its probably enough to say that the Soviet records that came out after 1989 don't agree with you. But what would they know, right?

Which war against Islam are you referring to?

The one that slowed their advance through Asia minor, pushed them out of Spain, out of Italy, back from Vienna, out of Russia, out of Romania, out of Bulgaria, and fought them to a standstill in the Balkans, to name a few. By your logic none of that was required, as Islamic societies have produced inferior results and would have failed on their own accord.

Given your overall misunderstanding of recent history with regard to the conflicts involving communism, I must assume that your knowledge of McCarthy is totally made up of what you've been told by Hollywood and Leftists. That is too bad.

37 posted on 04/27/2009 8:53:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: SampleMan
So billions of foreign dollars brought in to create Wahibism and to fight a propaganda war against our Republican form of government doesn't concern you. I don't share your view.

There is a bad tendency on FR for people to mislabel anything that refutes their point as a straw-man.

You misrepresented my argument to make it easier to attack it. Call it what you like. But however you decide to refer to that strategy, I'm not interested in participating in it.

The anticommunists were not zealots.

Ok. I've presented my argument, and you've presented yours. I suppose we could continue saying the same thing over and over again, but I don't see much hope for common ground.
38 posted on 04/27/2009 9:02:24 AM PDT by mysterio
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