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Secret Memos Undermine Torture Claims
The Bulletin ^ | April 27, 2009 | MICHAEL P. TREMOGLIE

Posted on 04/27/2009 3:28:40 AM PDT by William Tell 2

The recently declassified memos written by Justice Department lawyers to CIA personnel provide more evidence the Bush administration and the CIA only used harsh interrogation techniques on captured terrorists when no other avenues were available.

From the beginning, administration lawyers scrambled to determine if the techniques the CIA requested to use would violate laws against torture

http://www.thebulletin.us/articles/2009/04/27/top_stories/doc49f53e698737d886716301.txt


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cia; democrat; democrats; impeachobama; interrogation; obama; obamatruthfile; torture

1 posted on 04/27/2009 3:28:40 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

Bump for later read.


2 posted on 04/27/2009 3:35:09 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: William Tell 2

“Mdeia Reports Omit Pertinent Facts.”

Wow, now there’s a shocker.


3 posted on 04/27/2009 3:36:05 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Jack Hammer

Media


4 posted on 04/27/2009 3:38:02 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: All
ON THE INTERNET:

DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "PENTAGON TO RELEASE PHOTOS FROM DETAINEE CUSTODY INVESTIGATIONS" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 24, 2009)

Link (pdf)

Link

DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "SPOKESMAN CITES PENTAGON COOPERATION IN INTERROGATION PROBE" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 22, 2009)



WEEKLY STANDARD.com: "PREENING & POSTURING Throwing those who guard us while we sleep to the wolves." by William Kristol (SNIPPET: "The dark and painful chapter we have to fear is rather the one President Obama may be ushering in. This would be a chapter in which politicians preen moralistically as they throw patriotic officials, who helped keep this country safe, to the wolves, and in which national leaders posture politically while endangering the nation's security. The preening is ridiculous, even by the standards of contemporary American politics and American liberalism. Obama fatuously asserts there are no real choices in the real world, just "false choices" that he can magically resolve. He foolishly suggests that even in war we would never have to do anything disagreeable for the sake of our security. He talks baby talk to intelligence officers: "Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That’s how we learn."") (May 4, 2009 Issue)
WEEKLY STANDARD.com - blog: "GOSS: OBAMA DECISION "CROSSED A RED LINE"" -Posted by Stephen F. Hayes (SNIPPET: "Porter Goss, former CIA Director and past chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, blasted the Obama administration for releasing Justice Department memos on harsh interrogation techniques. "For the first time in my experience we've crossed the red line of properly protecting our national security in order to gain partisan political advantage," Goss said in an interview.") (April 23, 2009, 1:53 pm)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BOEHNER: CIA METHODS NO SECRET ON HILL" by S.A. Miller (April 23, 2009)

stepping back in time...WASHINGTON POST.com: "HILL BRIEFED ON WATERBOARDING IN 2002 In Meetings, Spy Panels' Chiefs Did Not Protest, Officials Say" by Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen (December 9, 2007)

CNS NEWS.com: "CIA CONFIRMS: WATERBOARDING 9/11 MASTERMIND LED TO INFO THAT ABORTED 9/11-STYLE ATTACK ON LOS ANGELES" by Terence P. Jeffrey (April 21, 2009)

DIRECTOR BLUE - blog: "EXCLUSIVE TEXT: WHAT WATERBOARDING REVEALED" (April 21, 2009)

Transcripts.CNN.com: "STATE OF THE UNION WITH JOHN KING Interview with Janet Napolitano; Interview with Senators Klobuchar, Ensign" (Aired April 19, 2009, 09:00 ET)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "This is Torture?" by Jacob Laksin (SNIPPET: "Nevertheless, the administration erred in releasing the memos.") (April 21, 2009)

CNN.com: Washington - "EX-CIA CHIEF: OBAMA RISKS NATIONAL SECURITY" (SNIPPET: "A former head of the CIA slammed President Obama on Sunday for releasing four Bush-era memos, saying the new president has compromised national security.") (Updated April 19, 2009, 7:44 p.m. EDT)
Online.WSJ.com: "THE PRESIDENT TIES HIS OWN HANDS ON TERROR The point of interrogation is intelligence, not confession." by Michael Hayden and Michael B. Mukasey (April 17, 2009)
CIA.gov: "MESSAGE FROM THE DIRECTOR: RELEASE OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OPINIONS Statement to Employees by Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Leon E. Panetta on the Release of Department of Justice Opinions" (April 16, 2009)
US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: "DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE RELEASES FOUR OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL OPINIONS" (April 16, 2009)

WHITEHOUSE.gov: "STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA ON RELEASE OF OLC MEMOS" (April 16, 2009)

FOX NEWS.com: "EX-CIA CHIEF CRITICIZES RELEASE OF INTERROGATION MEMOS Former CIA Director Michael Hayden says release of the memos will give terrorists a precise guide for what to expect in a CIA interrogation if those methods are ever approved for use again" (April 16, 2009)
FOX NEWS.com: "OBAMA MAY RELEASE DETAILS OF CIA's INTERROGATION METHODS USED ON TERROR SUSPECTS" by Brit Hume (SNIPPET: "The president's decision will tell us much about him.") (April 15, 2009)

5 posted on 04/27/2009 3:39:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: William Tell 2

for later


6 posted on 04/27/2009 3:43:06 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Cindy

Acknowledging or allowing some democrat burro sphincter, or worse, the maimstream media, to unilaterally decide what torture might be, and to set a standard based on ASSumptions is akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

To have an apologetic President tell the world what I know to NOT be true in my behalf, is to have a President who doesn’t have a clue what the duties of a President are, or one smidgen of Interest in the 230+ years of the preceding history of the greatest nation on the face of the earth.

His world wide apology tour is a slap in the face and worse, to every American soldier who laid down his or her life that we might enjoy freedom and liberty from the very ideas and principles Mr Obama is now attempting to promote on an international basis.


7 posted on 04/27/2009 4:05:56 AM PDT by wita
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To: Cindy

BTT


8 posted on 04/27/2009 4:07:56 AM PDT by billva
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To: William Tell 2

Bump for later reading.


9 posted on 04/27/2009 4:31:57 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: wita

Hear, hear!


10 posted on 04/27/2009 6:29:37 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: William Tell 2
Must read thread...

Former Abu Ghraib Brigadier General, Janis Karpinski AND House Judiciary Committee chairman/chief Bush "investigator", John Conyers Jr, are both endorsers of the Revolutionary Communist Party front "World Can't Wait". I think the 'investigation' needs to shift in a new direction!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2236826/posts

11 posted on 04/27/2009 6:37:37 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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“Former Abu Ghraib Brigadier General, Janis Karpinski”

This is the incompetent General who allowed egregious abuses of Iraqi prisoners to take place, due to her lack of leadership over an undisciplined and unprofessional crew that was ‘sleeping around’.

And she’s an anti-Bush BDSer. ... and SHE is pointing fingers?!?!? Pathetic, really pathetic.


12 posted on 04/27/2009 7:42:08 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

There was also a 60 Minutes segment about her where she “lost” an Iraqi defector from Saddam’s regime who was helping us.


13 posted on 04/27/2009 7:52:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: WOSG
And she’s an anti-Bush BDSer.

If she's involved with organizations like the Revolutionary Communist Party front, World Can't Wait, it seems to be about more than just Bush. Being angry is one thing, hopping in bed with our enemies is something else. Please check out the thread I linked to earlier.

Here it is again:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2236826/posts

14 posted on 04/27/2009 7:55:05 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: William Tell 2

RIght on Bachman!! I’ve always liked her!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA33u0PQOvw&feature=haxa_popt00us0b


15 posted on 04/27/2009 8:00:12 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: William Tell 2

here we go again, confusing the liberals with facts ..


16 posted on 04/27/2009 9:09:31 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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