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GM Bondholders Reject Debt-Swapping Offer
WILX (MI) ^ | 04/28/09 | Various

Posted on 04/28/2009 10:48:31 AM PDT by Kieri

A committee representing General Motors Corp. bondholders is rejecting the company's debt exchange offer, saying it pushes the automaker closer to a bankruptcy filing. The committee, representing large, institutional bondholders such as Fidelity and John Hancock, said in a statement Monday that GM's offer is inadequate and shows favoritism to the United Auto Workers union. The UAW would receive about a 39 percent stake in GM if it agrees to take $10 billion in health care trust payments in stock. Bondholders will get a 10 percent stake in GM if 90 percent of its $27 billion in unsecured debt is swapped for stock. The group was working with GM to reach an agreement before the company made a formal offer, but the two sides have not negotiated since March.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; gm; michigan; uaw
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To: Alberta's Child

‘These are astute bond holders’

McCotter is trying to determine which bond holders bought Credit Default Swaps on their bonds from AIG to make them whole if GM fails. (JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs?)
The Taxpayers would still be taken to the cleaners.


41 posted on 04/28/2009 11:17:19 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: Kieri

Is the Feds total investment in GM at this point $17 billion? I can”t remeber exactly.

At any rate for roughly $17 billion the Feds get 50%, for $10 billion the UAW gets 39%, and for roughly $24.3 billion (90% of $27 billion) the bondholders get 10%???????

Welcome to Amerika, comrade.

The bondholders have no choice but to force GM’s hand. Bankruptcy would be much more equitable. Clearly robbery such as this is but one of the many reasons we can’t allow our benevolent leaders to come to our rescue.


42 posted on 04/28/2009 11:28:39 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Kieri

They need to reject it, it’s a raw deal for them, a sweetheart deal for the UAW!


43 posted on 04/28/2009 11:30:37 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: nyconse
I participated in one bankruptcy, and outstanding, unpaid wages went first, claim on cash on hand and unsold finished goods. The bond holders and suppliers came next, since they essentially lent cash money.

Pensions generally depend on a going concern for their continuance. There just isn't enough money without the business continuance. I bet this is why the union is being given the majority ownership stake ... Who bails out all the other companies who went broke.

Obviously the bond holders have some power, they said NO. Whether they settle at the 11th hour, up to them, they can do what they want, or are forced to do.

44 posted on 04/28/2009 11:34:44 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: griswold3

“Never gonna by a GM product again.”

Obama’s goons will force you to or to the re-education camp you go — in a GM truck.


45 posted on 04/28/2009 11:35:43 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Kieri
File for bankruptcy or die gm... it matters not... I am through with you after a lifetime of buying your offerings. Never again!

LLS

46 posted on 04/28/2009 11:36:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: YOUGOTIT
I do not think that I will ever again buy a GM car.

We own four now - Corvette, pickup, Blazer, and Suburban. It'll be Toyotas from now on.

47 posted on 04/28/2009 11:40:10 AM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: griswold3
I have never heard of “Credit Default Swaps “.My Father-in-Law died this March. I do not know what happened, all his life he was very astute when it came to stocks. It came as a shock to us when we found out how heavily invested he was in GM. Bonds and stock (preferred). A friend at the brokers said that he “did not want to sell short”. I think that my Father-in-Law thought that he still had the time to change some things with his finances when he passed.
48 posted on 04/28/2009 11:46:00 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Kieri

The UAW may do well in the final looting, but GM is a corpse going forward. The government is incapable of producing a product that anyone wants, and the UAW has bled it’s host into a coma from which it will not return.


49 posted on 04/28/2009 11:47:07 AM PDT by throwback
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To: Kieri

No one is discussing what will happen to the dealers.


50 posted on 04/28/2009 11:48:40 AM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Petronski

I would bet money that the Chinese would pay about what the bonds are worth to own Buick and GM properties in China.

What would happen if the bondholders accepted the current proposal is that the UAW would demand the closing of overseas plants such as China and the Chinese would buy the closed plants dirt cheap and undercut the price of UAW made cars in the States.


51 posted on 04/28/2009 12:34:44 PM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Kieri

The Bond holders have nothing to gain from the Obama seizure.


52 posted on 04/28/2009 3:58:48 PM PDT by omega4179 (Damn the world apology tour!)
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To: Alberta's Child; Big_Monkey
These are astute bond holders.

They are anticipating a collapse of General Motors and have rightly figured that they could get far more than 10 cents on the dollar even if they just sell off the company's real estate holdings.

I'd be REALLY nervous about what Credit Default Swap / Reinsurance options were on the table regarding GM, bankruptcy and sitting over in say ... AIG's portfolio of contracts right about now.

I'd also bet these bondholders have hedged against this.

53 posted on 04/28/2009 4:05:58 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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