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1 posted on 05/02/2009 9:14:26 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

What’s the real poop on this? I know you have an inside scoop.


2 posted on 05/02/2009 9:17:20 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Born Conservative

It looks to me as if the jury didn’t buy into the “hate crime” law.


3 posted on 05/02/2009 9:19:25 AM PDT by repubpub (If I'm posting here, I must be on Napolitano's list.)
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To: Born Conservative
Another paper had this version of the story.

Shenandoah murder trial: JURY’S VERDICT: SIMPLE ASSAULT

4 posted on 05/02/2009 9:20:13 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Born Conservative
Towards the end of the story, after the quotes from the prosecution, MALDEF and references to the all-white jury:

Ramirez also was not entirely innocent, continuing to fight voluntarily when the boys started to walk away, according to Fanelli.

The other term for the boys actions could be 'self defense'.

6 posted on 05/02/2009 9:27:32 AM PDT by skeeter (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you. Then you win - Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: Born Conservative
I asked this on the other thread.

Who has more machismo? A 25 year old Mexican with a 15 year old girl friend or a group of football players that have been drinking?

I doubt if the 15 year old would have thought any less of him if he hadn't fought them.

7 posted on 05/02/2009 9:31:30 AM PDT by csvset
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Interesting story. If the defense lawyer is positively correct and Ramirez called in a friend who had a gun with him, in Virginia the friend, and Ramierez, if he'd survived, would have gone to prison for an extra 5 years for having a gun present while commiting a crime.

Since Ramirez died the "friend" with the gun, part of the gang?, would be tried for his murder.

Apparantly the law in Pennsylvania is not sufficiently evolved to properly target the problem.

8 posted on 05/02/2009 9:34:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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