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To: My hearts in London - Everett
That isn't always true. Some children are just more hard headed than others. We used time outs, taking away priviledges, spankings, etc. with our oldest (who is now 23).

NOTHING worked on this kid - nothing. Eventually he ended up in juvi and went to a ranch for troubled kids. He still didn't learn.

Today he has a daughter - of course he's not married to the mom - and has gone through JobCorp, had and lost many jobs, is behind on child support, has been to jail on misdemenors, blah blah blah. . .

It isn't always the parent.

15 posted on 05/04/2009 9:37:16 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: ninergold3

I agree it’s not always the parent, but a large majority of the time it is. Many parents don’t know how to be parents and not friends. My parents never heard of “time outs” and “taking away privileges”. Instilling fear and respect is all they knew ~ and it worked.


18 posted on 05/04/2009 9:52:02 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: ninergold3

It’s not always the parent. In this case, just from the information in the article, it does seem that the parent (the mom) is a huge part of the problem. There’s probably more to the story, though.


24 posted on 05/04/2009 10:16:42 PM PDT by Twink
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My cousin was sent to Catholic school a 2 parent active family and a large support system of extended family. She started running away a 15, had a baby at 16, disappeared for a while, had another baby at by a different man at 23. After the 2nd child was born, she really got her act together. Got a GED, went to school to be a surgical tech, the doctor she works for loves her so much he has offered to pay all of her expenses to go to nursing school. She has custody of her kids and is doing amazing. I can promise you it had nothing to do with her parents or parenting, her younger sister by 2 yrs. graduated with a 4.0, went to a major university and is now a teacher.

My oldest son is a hard head too. He is 18 now, he pulled that if you hit me crap on me when he was 14. I called the police right there and put them on speaker phone, I explained to the officer his attitude and the fact that he could call on me, the detective said, have at him, avoid the face. That shut him up for a while.

Just the other day he was with his buddies and got smart with me, I hauled off and slapped his face, I told him he was lucky I didn’t punch his lights out, because I didn’t want to pay for dental costs. I told him, I didn’t care if he was 18, 38, or 88, if I was alive he would not disrespect me, ever. He was embarrassed and angry but he came back later when all was calmed down and apologized, I told him I would do it again if he kept it up.

He has 2 brothers that are not confrontational but, like you said all kids are different. I was never a parent that flew off the handle and just spanked for the heck of it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.


31 posted on 05/05/2009 4:08:54 AM PDT by panthermom
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