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On May 5, Mexican dominance irks other Latinos
Sacramento Bee ^ | May 5, 2009 | By MANUEL VALDES

Posted on 05/05/2009 10:06:49 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

SEATTLE -- With mariachis, tequila and parades, Cinco De Mayo will be celebrated this week in parties across the nation, kicking off a commemoration of Mexican heritage in the United States as a pseudo-holiday that has been adopted by the general population.

But for Dagoberto Reyes, a Salvadorian immigrant living in Los Angeles, May 5 is more a reminder of the dominance Mexican culture has in a country that is home to immigrants from many Latin American countries. His prime example: Los Angeles-area public schools.

"Our kids go to this school system, and the school system is more preoccupied with Mexico's history, and not the rest of Latin America's, much less El Salvador's," said Reyes, director of Casa de la Cultura, a Salvadorian community center. "They came back celebrating Cinco De Mayo. That holiday means nothing to us." [snip]

It's often as simple as commanding the dominant slang - for example, a jacket for Central Americans is "chaqueta," but for Mexicans it is "chamarra" - but it can range to more overt hostility or competition in the work force, and it can spark worries of losing cultural identity.

Ignorance and apathy by Americans adds to the mix.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; balkanization; eunumpluribus; immigrants
Ignorance and apathy by Americans adds to the mix.

Cinco de FO.

1 posted on 05/05/2009 10:06:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s what this Puerto Rican has been saying for a longgggggggggggggggg time.


2 posted on 05/05/2009 10:10:12 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
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3 posted on 05/05/2009 10:11:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That holiday means nothing to us."

Means nothing to a lot of us, just another excuse to party. ;)

4 posted on 05/05/2009 10:12:12 AM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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To: SouthTexas

The holiday means nothing to most Mexicans either. Meant a lot to Budweiser who was having a hard time selling this foreign beer they used to brew and distribute.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 10:14:06 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But for Dagoberto Reyes, a Salvadorian immigrant living in Los Angeles, May 5 is more a reminder of the dominance Mexican culture has in a country that is home to immigrants from many Latin American countries.

Tell you what Pepe, how about you go down to the nearest French restaurant and try to find somebody who will boo-hoo with you about how the Irish have Saint Patrick's Day all to themselves.

6 posted on 05/05/2009 10:16:41 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Cinco De Mayo will be celebrated this week in parties across the nation, kicking off a commemoration of Mexican heritage in the United States as a pseudo-holiday that has been adopted by the general population.”.....

W.T.F.?....adopted by the general population?...I don’t give a rats ass about Cinco De Crapo!....


7 posted on 05/05/2009 10:17:47 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For me, Sinko De Mayo means an unfortunate feature in my kitchen after sandwiches for supper.


8 posted on 05/05/2009 10:19:56 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yeah Thanks to GW and McQueeg are in order here they should be made to fork over Their own $$$$$ to foot the bill for removing these Gods children from our Country.
9 posted on 05/05/2009 10:21:08 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: jiggyboy

I celebrate Cinco de Mayo by having French Food. The Emperor Max did a lot that was good for Mexico.


10 posted on 05/05/2009 10:22:21 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“”Our kids go to this school system, and the school system is more preoccupied with Mexico’s history, and not the rest of Latin America’s, much less El Salvador’s,” said Reyes, director of Casa de la Cultura, a Salvadorian community center. “They came back celebrating Cinco De Mayo. That holiday means nothing to us.” ......

Ignorance and apathy by Americans adds to the mix.”
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A little US History would benefit them all.....they left their countries, don’t drag them here to us.


11 posted on 05/05/2009 10:25:09 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: JRios1968

Re: “That’s what this Puerto Rican has been saying for a longgggggggggggggggg time.”

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I have worked with and met on vacations many Latinos (other than Mexicans) who are sick to death of all the attention paid to Mexico. Once on a cruise ship from Miami into the Caribbean there was a huge group of Latinos and we got to talking with them; they spoke perfect English and were having a great time. This was long ago, around 1982.

Someone asked them if they were from Mexico and oh, the horror! The reaction was amazing — “NO, we are not Mexicans, we are CUBAN, from Miami!!!” They were not angry but really wanted others to know they were most definitely NOT Mexican.

Here in Los Angeles I worked with a young woman I thought at first was Mexican — lovely person, well spoken, attractive family, etc. Well, someone asked her about Mexico and she went nuts — again, not angry, but wanting to set us all straight — “I am from Guatemala, NOT Mexico!!”

She went on to criticize many of the millions of ‘cholos’ in L.A. who she saw as ruining life for other Latinos in America. Of course, this young woman and family were here legally, so she was ‘anti-illegal immigrants.’

One more example was the house painters I used recently — great group of guys, highly recommended, all related, but from Peru! To the uninitiated they could be from any Latino group. As I talked with them I found they, too, are proud citizens of the U.S., here legally, and wishing they could somehow remove the multitudes of Mexicans, espeially illegals.

So yes, I hear you re being irked by “Mexican dominance.” Clearly, you are not alone!


12 posted on 05/05/2009 10:33:36 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I celebrate Cinco de Mayo by flying a small American flag from my car antenna.


13 posted on 05/05/2009 10:39:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (We've gone from Jefferson to the Jeffersons)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

i love cinco de crapo. i’ll be tending bar tonight, gonna have me lots of white boys drinking coronas and dos equis all night celebrating the mexican “fourth of july” LOL

more funny will be the group of 20-something 5th gen mexicans that have no idea what the holiday is really for, but will party anyway.


14 posted on 05/05/2009 10:40:23 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Texas resident; GulfBreeze; rellimpank; AH_LiveRight; BGHater; nbhunt; La Lydia; ..

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


15 posted on 05/05/2009 10:43:52 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Our kids go to this school system, and the school system is more preoccupied with Mexico's history, and not the rest of Latin America's, much less El Salvador's," said Reyes, director of Casa de la Cultura, a Salvadorian community center. "They came back celebrating Cinco De Mayo. That holiday means nothing to us."

How about US history, the reason why they came to this country in the first place.

16 posted on 05/05/2009 10:47:02 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: jiggyboy
Tell you what Pepe, how about you go down to the nearest French restaurant and try to find somebody who will boo-hoo with you about how the Irish have Saint Patrick's Day all to themselves.

Cinco de Mayo: Americans take a minor Mexican holiday about winning a battle in a lost war and turn it into a drinking party.

St. Patrick's Day: Americans take an Irish holy day celebrating their patron saint and turn it into a drinking party.

Oktoberfest: Americans take a German drinking party and ... well, screw it up with Bud Light.

17 posted on 05/05/2009 10:47:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: absolootezer0

lots of white boys drinking coronas and dos equis all night celebrating the mexican “fourth of july” LOL

Obama voters for sure!


18 posted on 05/05/2009 10:58:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: KarlInOhio

Americans take a German drinking party and ... well, screw it up with Bud Light.

Doesn’t a German company own Bud Beer now?


19 posted on 05/05/2009 11:00:04 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
On May 5, Mexican dominance irks other Latinos

I fail to see why it should.

"Sinko" de Mayo is right up there with "kwanzaa." A made up fiction known only in the southwest. Even the Mexicans (in Mexico) don't care.

If I were them I would simply ignore the whole thing and go about my life.
Unless, of course, they can't resist any excuse to party.

20 posted on 05/05/2009 11:00:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Obama voters for sure!

nope :)

being the good bartender i am, i have educated them properly on politics- they all voted for hunter in teh primary and mccain in the general. i am not, however, going to educate them on certain aspects of history that might cause them to drink less- cuz then they'd tip less :)
21 posted on 05/05/2009 11:04:48 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: CaliforniaCon

“I am from Guatemala, NOT Mexico!!”

I got the same reaction from a couple of Guatemalans who I worked with.

However they added,....” Mexico is sh!t” to their response.


22 posted on 05/05/2009 11:06:49 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Annhueser-Busch is owned by “InBev” ... a Belgian (multinational) brewing company.


23 posted on 05/05/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I see they did away with the swine flu just in time for Cinco de Mayo.


24 posted on 05/05/2009 11:08:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: razorboy

LOL, Bud’s still suffering from the 4 point drop in market share they had when I quit drinking 20 years ago. ;)


25 posted on 05/05/2009 11:23:00 AM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; AngelesCrestHighway

Don’t get your Bohemian (American) beer mixed up with Bohemia (Mexican) beer.


26 posted on 05/05/2009 11:34:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
The Emperor Max did a lot that was good for Mexico.

That's the kind of guys we are...

:)

27 posted on 05/05/2009 11:53:37 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


28 posted on 05/05/2009 12:14:24 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Our kids go to this school system, and the school system is more preoccupied with Mexico's history, and not the rest of Latin America's, much less El Salvador's," said Reyes, director of Casa de la Cultura, a Salvadorian community center. "They came back celebrating Cinco De Mayo. That holiday means nothing to us." [snip]

LOL, my head is exploding!

29 posted on 05/05/2009 12:22:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: CaliforniaCon

Do you think Mexican illegals are the problem or something about Mexican culture that makes all other Hispanics deny their relation to them? This seems to be a convoluted subject no one of Hispanic/Latino descent seems willing to address.


30 posted on 05/06/2009 4:45:38 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Re: “lots of white boys drinking coronas and dos equis all night celebrating the mexican “fourth of july” LOL”

and...

“Obama voters for sure!”

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I’m not so sure they all voted for zero — young adults here in L.A., of all persuasions, have loved Cinco de Mayo for decades and it has nothing to do with fifth of May. It’s all about the partying.

I remember once having a big time at a ‘disco’ and being thrilled to get a tee-shirt free signifying the event. That was around 1980. Over time the whole illegal scenario has gotten worse but trust me, So. Cal. has always had problems.


31 posted on 05/06/2009 11:05:39 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Re: “Do you think Mexican illegals are the problem or something about Mexican culture that makes all other Hispanics deny their relation to them? This seems to be a convoluted subject no one of Hispanic/Latino descent seems willing to address.”

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I think here in So Cal it’s the massive numbers of Mexicans that so upsets and daunts other latino groups — and everyone else.

They feel pushed aside by them, run out of their neighborhoods, rother latinos resent being mistaken for them, and are annoyed by brazen “I can do what I want” behaviors exhibited, plus that constant flying of the Mexican flag that we see so often.

The dynamic is similar to what blacks felt some years ago when (mostly) Mexicans were spreading around the city of L.A. and blacks felt compelled to move to far reaching suburbs, which they did in great numbers. The old ‘south-central’ is now about 90% latino/Mexican. The school district, LAUSD, is about 80% Mexican, at least.

It’s almost funny how blacks and whites, when out in public in groups that include vociferous latinos (Mexicans), will roll their eyes at each other and mutter things like “Can’t they speak English?”

I have to tell you, it’s pretty funny because if ONLY blacks and whites were out in public, the two groups would almost certainly be avoiding each other for the most part. In this little ‘war’ against masses of Mexicans here, blacks and whites do tend to come together at times.

In Los Angeles we have this same situation in a lesser way involving Russians and/or Armenians who have taken over such ‘towns’ as Glendale and various other neighborhoods. I have known American ‘whites’ who have actually moved elsewhere to get away from them.

Then there are the various other middle-easterners who populate certain areas and are considered by some to be extremely overbearing.

Bottom line is that So. Cal. is a melting pot to the nth degree and sometimes you really don’t know you are in the USA at all. Sad, I’m glad I’m getting old...............


32 posted on 05/06/2009 11:16:59 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Give us a good drinking holiday associated with your country and we’ll celebrate that too.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 11:18:31 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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