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Schwarzenegger says 'time for debate' on legal marijuana
Sacramento Bee ^ | , May. 5, 2009 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 05/05/2009 2:27:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: RobRoy
It's retarded to legalize more drugs.
We already have problems as you say with alcohol, so why go open another can of poison?

If the users in this country would grow some brains and get some responsibility there would be no market for Mexico and others to bring drugs and crimes here.

IMO drug users are even worse that the illegals in what they do to our country.

161 posted on 05/07/2009 10:47:12 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

>>It’s retarded to legalize more drugs.<<

Like alcohol?

>>We already have problems as you say with alcohol, so why go open another can of poison?<<

Are you pro prohibition?

>>If the users in this country would grow some brains and get some responsibility there would be no market for Mexico and others to bring drugs and crimes here.<<

Yep. And if pigs could fly...


162 posted on 05/07/2009 5:19:53 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: RobRoy

Yes, alcohol keeps getting mixed with the weed and other drugs in tons of crimes.
Based on what we ALREADY deal with regarding alcohol, it would be stupid to in addition add other substances to the OK list.

The genie is already out of the bottle on alcohol and as we learned (as you have said) from that, we shouldn’t find other stupid things to legalize.


163 posted on 05/07/2009 7:23:06 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Bill bradley said, many years ago that if you think we have a crack baby problem now, just wait ‘till we legalize drugs.

My response: Freedom has a price.

Freedom trumps security. It is “for the children” that is the battle cry of those who would create (are creating, actually) a rubber padded world.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience.” - C. S. Lewis

In a nutshell, my kids are none of their business and their kids are none of my business.


164 posted on 05/08/2009 6:35:54 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: RobRoy
There is the difference between the freedom you COULD have on a private island and the freedom you can expect to SHARE in a very populated area where EVERYBODY’s freedoms have to be considered.

It's why we have noise pollution laws where if a car is blasting music down a residential area, they ticket them for disturbing the peace.

Just doing anything you want is anarchy.

I agree with you that alcohol is very bad. We have one bad thing and the answer to that isn't to add more bad things to the OK list, that's just simply retarded IMO.

We know we don't need to grow users.
If anything, jail them harsher the first time to give them reasons to be more responsible.

I would have no problem with a 30 day jail sentence for drunk in public or behind the wheel.
Same for drugs.

165 posted on 05/08/2009 8:10:51 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: messierhunter

the world may never know


166 posted on 05/11/2009 6:15:22 PM PDT by joshjones
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To: starlifter
LOL. Did he even read them?

More from NHTSC documents:

"Yet, THC's effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. Evidence from the present and previous studies strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the former's users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence."

"In summary, this program of research has shown that marijuana, when taken alone, produces a moderate degree of driving impairment which is related to the consumed THC dose. The impairment manifests itself mainly in the ability to maintain a steady lateral position on the road, but its magnitude is not exceptional in comparison with changes produced by many medicinal drugs and alcohol."

Actual marijuana driving test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zou4F00Ic

167 posted on 05/14/2009 9:35:25 PM PDT by Ve5pertine
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To: Ve5pertine
Of course he didn't. Most zealot's would rather not be bothered by facts.
168 posted on 05/15/2009 6:30:44 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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