Posted on 05/06/2009 2:28:07 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
PING!
Interesting stuff.
The Genie of democracy is out of the bottle. The sheeple have already made their three wishes and must suffer the consequences. The republic cannot be restored now except by spilling the blood of tyrants and patriots.
I agree, but we need people willing to push this in each state. The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions come to mind.
I believe obamarama would order the US Military to confront any state that might seriously challenge his authority. Hopefully our Military leaders would not honor his order.
Repeal of the 17th Amendment would be a good start. Have our Senators again represent their State and not the electorate. Of course, there’s little chance of this happening.
how many tyrants and how many patriots?
just do the math
I know where the odds lay and who they are in favor of
Certainly not the first time this has been been posted, but . . .
Not long ago on FR there was great criticism made by some against others who made the distinction between a democracy and a republic.
Both interesting and important are the distinctions made between a democracy and a republic by the United States War Department (now called the Department of Defense) in 1928, in Training Manual No. 2000-25. This manual was “Prepared under the direction of the Chief of Staff” for military officers on the subject of citizenship. We reproduce the pertinent portion of Training Manual 2000-25 here.
A DEMOCRACY:
: A government of the masses.
: Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression results in mobocracy.
: Attitude toward property is communistic, negating property rights.
: Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
: Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
A REPUBLIC:
: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.
: Attitude toward [governance] is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure.
: Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.
: A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
: Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
: Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
Helping us to more clearly understand the results of democracy, Professor Alexander Tytler penned the following words in America over 230 years ago, when the American colonies where still under the British Crown.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back again to bondage.
BTTT for a later read.
BTTT
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. ~ H. L. Mencken
Most excellent.
Is there a link to this authors works?
“The Genie of democracy is out of the bottle. The sheeple have already made their three wishes and must suffer the consequences. The republic cannot be restored now except by spilling the blood of tyrants and patriots.”
God help us.
I agree with this idea... but states could also shrug off federal dominance by rejecting any and all federal money for anything. No federal money means no federal control over said money.
BTTT for later
Yeah, yeah !
Can’t have all them civilians runnin’ around with no one in charge !!
Tell me: When you pledge allegiance to the flag (assuming you do so), and you stand tall, with your hand over your heart, do you keep your fingers crossed ?
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That this makes no sense is beside the point. Obviously the purpose of the Senate of the federal body was not "one-man, one vote." It made the States equal in status, not the people as in the House. Only one state has a unicameral legislature, and no one would prefer that the Senates of the States afford status to the counties. It's an excellent notion. Unfortunately, the strangle hold of lobbyists and the legislative-culture have created fifty little Washingtons, each with its own subculture and language and score cards. Above many of them are the even more invisible lawyers of the Civil Rights Section of the U.S. Justice Department.
The average legislator in the U.S. is a step below a Congressman in attention-span, which is slightly less than that of a circus monkey. The razzle-dazzle of legislative sessions and the jaded Mandarin classes of professional legislative staff would easily block these measures on a legislative level.
I can think of no way to get around this other than for candidates to add these to their platforms while running for office. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but perhaps the only way to combat these Populist subversions is by a kind of populist strategy. Perhaps that's the way it should be.
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