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To: PugetSoundSoldier

By the logic you’re using there were not any daughters born to Eve nor most every other matriarch in the Bible - at least not until and unless explicitly mentioned. The most ridiculous assertations come from people who don’t truly study God’s Word and then mangle it further trying to interweave it w/ evolution.

Is doesn’t take a rocket scientist to determine that Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters (Gen 5:4). Were there any daughters born between Cain and Abel or how about Abel and Seth? There must have been which must also imply that when Cain became a wanderer, a sister of his must surely have followed after him at some point.

It would not be considered incest - not as that which is prohibited in the modern day to avoid birth defects - not the same at all when the newly created DNA is perfect and pure. And it would be required for the survival of any species where God created them male and female.

Also have you not heard of a literary device called fast forward? Do you know for certain the chain of events that were happening in Adam and Eve’s lives when Cain settled with his Wife in the land of Nod? Or how about the beginnings of civilization in Gen 4:17-22?

Apparently we are supposed to believe that you failed English and therefore can not distinguish literal text (Gen 1), from metaphors and parables (mostly New Testament stories), symbolics (Revelation), and even fast forwards. Yet you are intelligent enough to understand all the inner-workings of evolution enough to distinguish truth from error.

Listen pal, every book I’ve read on evolution resembles fairy tales using many of the same literary devices much moreso than any truly scientific research text. Have you not noticed any conjecture (and lack of scientific data) in Darwin’s precious Origins book? And let us not forget Darwin’s esteemed educational credentials either!


44 posted on 05/09/2009 7:03:08 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

[[ not the same at all when the newly created DNA is perfect and pure. And it would be required for the survival of any species where God created them male and female.]]

Not to mention that those hwo support the silly notion that GA’s represent natural Macroevolution have NO answer for how chemically pure construcitons can occure from chemical impurity found in nature- Right from the start- Macroevolutionists are defeated based on this FACT alone. Life selects from chemically pure constructions created by The One who could do so- but naturalists are boudn and determined to deny htis and insist nature was capable of taking dirty chemicals and making it pure enough for lifeto exist- Bet the GA’s haven’t been intelligently designed to solve htis little mystery yet- let alone the mystery of Metainformation NEEDED to sustain the fitness of life BEFORE any such ‘reconstruction’ can take place via mutations. Apparently, higher metainformation just ‘poofed into existence’ majically from nothing, and apparently, chemically pure biological constructions just ‘appeared’ magically as well.


48 posted on 05/09/2009 8:29:42 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: BrandtMichaels
By the logic you’re using there were not any daughters born to Eve nor most every other matriarch in the Bible - at least not until and unless explicitly mentioned. The most ridiculous assertations come from people who don’t truly study God’s Word and then mangle it further trying to interweave it w/ evolution.

No, what YOU are doing is adding information to the Bible; information NOT contained within it! If we are to only take a literal translation of the Bible as word-for-word accurate, then Adam and Eve had ZERO other children until after Cain married and had Enoch. Period.

PLEASE point out in the Scriptures where this is NOT the case. You are surmising and making assumptions about events which happened outside the Biblical texts, and that is the VERY same thing that GGG says is wrong in relation to the Creation story.

Bottom line: if you want to claim the Creation story as 100% accurate and essentially the scientific truth, then you have to explain where Enoch came from. Because according the Bible there was only one woman alive at the time, and that was Eve! She did not marry Cain, because he left Adam and Eve to go find his wife.

Essentially, if the Bible is historically and scientifically infallible then you have a BIG problem here.

Now, if the Bible is theologically and philosophically infallible, there's no issue. God created all - THAT is the message of the creation story! He started it, He is responsible! The actual method is irrelevant; what matters is that He did it.

Note that this allows for the fact that Adam and Eve may have been the first spiritually aware people; the first ones to understand and realize there is a God, and to have a relationship with Him. It does not discount the existence of others, like the wife of Cain...

So you deny the theory of evolution on the basis of "it's not scriptural". Great. So tell me where did Cain's wife come from? Because your claims about here are clearly just as unscriptural as you claim the theory of evolution to be.

63 posted on 05/09/2009 2:22:55 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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