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Amnesty Pushers Concoct Six Straw Men
Human Events ^ | 05/06/2009 | Rep. Lamar Smith

Posted on 05/09/2009 6:40:33 AM PDT by Delacon

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1 posted on 05/09/2009 6:40:33 AM PDT by Delacon
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To: neverdem

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2 posted on 05/09/2009 6:40:51 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

Lets not forget the “We need a guest worker program”.

This one insinuates that there aren’t already dozens of other guest worker programs that aren’t doing anything to slow the flood of illegals.


3 posted on 05/09/2009 6:51:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: null and void; sthguard

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4 posted on 05/09/2009 6:51:43 AM PDT by DeLaine
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To: cripplecreek

We are bringing in over 120,000 LEGAL FOREIGN WORKERS A MONTH right now in the middle of the highest unemployment rates in a quarter of a century.


5 posted on 05/09/2009 6:58:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cripplecreek

All of these straw men are used to commit politics in general ... “We need to raise taxes because ..... “


6 posted on 05/09/2009 6:59:19 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Delacon
Obama budget nixes aid for jailing illegal immigrants
7 posted on 05/09/2009 7:01:46 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 110 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Delacon

This one is a keeper. The congressman knocks down all the BS arguments against immigration enforcement in one fell swoop. This article should appear in major newspapers, but yeah, the chances of that happening are slim to 0.


8 posted on 05/09/2009 7:11:53 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Delacon

Good article.


9 posted on 05/09/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: Delacon
The Family Separation Straw Man

IMO this straw man 'argument' is the easiest to dispute and is a real laugher. By this 'logic' then we should never ever put any criminal in Prison as it 'separates him, or her, from the family'.

And last I checked, being separated from your family is not an argument for acquittal or never included in a judge's instructions to a jury.

Remember jurors, if you find Tyrone (or Juan) guilty of Armed Robbery he'll be in Prison for Ten Years and separated from his family.
And being deported is surely a much lesser 'penalty' than going to $#$*ing PRISON!

and, like it states the kids can go back to México with su madre o padre

10 posted on 05/09/2009 7:17:42 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

Yes, I’ve made that point myself on other threads. We seperate criminals from their children all the time. Now the constitution grants children citizenship when born here so they are protected but ultimate jurisdiction lies with the parent and the country of the parent where he/she is a legal citizen. So the parent has the right/obligation to take the child back with them to their country of origin. However what the parent is doing is hiding behind their child’s citizenship in order to stay.


11 posted on 05/09/2009 7:27:36 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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LOL! Rep. Smith builds in a few straw-men himself...

For example, his "flawed verification system" strawman says, "Currently, nearly 13 million citizens and legal immigrants are looking for jobs. Almost eight million illegal immigrants hold them."

Strawmam #1: Somehow the illegals are in the driver's seat over who gets to do the hiring, and who gets to be the employee. American employers are apparently helpless to prevent themselves from hiring illegals in preference to Americans....

The Flawed Verification System Straw Man consistently claims that he understands the link between illegal immigration and the ability of illegal immigrants to gain employment, yet he opposes efforts to help employers comply with the law.

Strawman #2 says "gaining employment" is somehow the illegals' fault, and that American employers want to hire legals, but somehow just can't seem to figure out how to comply with the law....

Sorry, Mr. Smith -- you need to think a little more deeply about the nature of the illegal immigration problem. First hint: Americans are the ones handing out the money....

12 posted on 05/09/2009 7:28:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Delacon; kristinn; Jim Robinson; trooprally; The Mayor; Baynative; Brad's Gramma; gubamyster; ...

A Must-Read! Amnesty of illegal aliens and their usurping of voting rights as Democrat payola is one of the biggest threats to our U.S. Sovereignty. Most of the other threats can be undone with the stroke of a pen—fixing the damage of crimigration requires that plus moving vans.

REQUEST: I’d appreciate a ping to good resources to help educate/inform the general, apathetic public on exactly how illegal immigration hurts them, their career opportunities and their children’s future. Looking for short, concise articles, good graphics etc....thanks in advance.


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On/off the list—FREEPmail me privately.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 7:33:31 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Delacon
Yes, I’ve made that point myself on other threads. We seperate criminals from their children all the time.
Exactly. I don't even understand how the Open Border Crowd can even bring up 'Family Separation' with a straight face. Anyone with ½ a brain should realize 'Separation' is a laughable argument.
14 posted on 05/09/2009 7:39:14 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: kabar

“We are bringing in”

Shouldn’t that read, “Our government is letting in”?


15 posted on 05/09/2009 7:40:37 AM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: CedarDave; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...

New Mexico ping


16 posted on 05/09/2009 7:53:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama....never saw a Bush molehill he couldn't make a mountain out of.......)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Go to the Center for Immigration Studies website. It provides a wealth of resources on the issues of both legal and illegal immigration. If we were to stop all illegal immigration tomorrow, our legal immigration policies remain the biggest threat to our national sovereignty and the source of the Balkanization of this country.
17 posted on 05/09/2009 7:55:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wolfcreek

Our government is elected by us.


18 posted on 05/09/2009 7:56:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Delacon
How about the "You swam the river in the middle of the night because you KNOW you are a criminal illegal alien" Straw Man?

Pizz on your damn excuses and "reasons." The Criminal illegal aliens KNOW what they are. The illegals are spewing BS and they KNOW it.

19 posted on 05/09/2009 7:59:41 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: kabar; The Spirit Of Allegiance
Go to the Center for Immigration Studies website. It provides a wealth of resources on the issues of both legal and illegal immigration. If we were to stop all illegal immigration tomorrow, our legal immigration policies remain the biggest threat to our national sovereignty and the source of the Balkanization of this country.
 
That is a good site. I'd like to recommend NumbersUSA at http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

20 posted on 05/09/2009 8:02:43 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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