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For Conservatives who seriously want to kick some RINO butt...
5/10/09 | Ron C

Posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT by Ron C.

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21 posted on 05/10/2009 5:01:54 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: DainBramage

Glenn “the Clown” Beck doesn’t really have a clue about politics, he is a bit of a latter day Huey Long. His real value is that he gets under the bonnett of both sides, especially the Olberdorf, Madcow, Bill O’ & Hannity bloviators.


22 posted on 05/10/2009 5:08:06 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

If you look at party indentification of voters, self declared ‘Republicans’ have been dropping like stone for several years.

I fear the “GOP” brand is damaged in the eyes of voters and citizens do not want to self-indentify with it.

Moderates: Moderate Republicans are now more socially/fiscally liberal. Identify and voted for Obama. “Lets give him a chance.” “Reaganism is dead”. “Lets open the borders”.

Conservatives: Conservative Republicans are socially/fiscally conservative and can not tolerate what the GOP leadership has done to the Republican party of the past several years and do not identify as Republicans anymore but ‘independents’.

Solution?

1) Conservatives must kick liberal/moderate Republican leadership OUT of the party. The race to out Democrat - Democrats simply does not work and never will. Being moderate means never taking a stand on any issue lest you offend someone. That is not leadership.

2) Set in writing a core set of party principles similar to wildly effective and long forgotten by our leadership “Contract with America”.

3) Don’t tolerate RINO’s in the party leadership because you see where that gets you ‘Spector, Snowe, Jeffords, etc).


23 posted on 05/10/2009 5:27:08 AM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: WaterBoard
The current GOP leadership has managed to damage the 'brand' and drive away its memberships. Time to replace all the GOP leadership or we must create a new party.


24 posted on 05/10/2009 5:29:18 AM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: Ron C.

It has always amazed me that the “Conservative” talking pundits of the airwaves have never mentioned this. If 0.01%of the energy wasted by listening to talk radio went into committee work with their opinions, it would make a far greater difference to the country than listening to pundits preaching to the choir.


26 posted on 05/10/2009 6:01:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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To: Ron C.

After reading some of the posts on this thread, the logic of some is that the GOP cannot be made into a conservative vehicle because some are against us.

But we should believe that by creating a third party, nobody will be against us.....ignoring the fact that the remnants of the OP and Dems would crush that third party jointly.

Just because a person understands and loves conservatism does not always mean they have a brain that is useful for politics.

Some people are just meant to vote while others are meant to lead.


27 posted on 05/10/2009 6:15:01 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Man50D; Ron C.
I'm with Man50D. A much quicker path to either restoring the GOP or killing it quickly and moving on would be to have a strong, third party CONSERVATIVE ticket in 2012 - Palin/Bachmann perhaps.

Sure it may not win, but it will send a clear message to the Beltway GOP elitists that neither will they without the Conservative base. That message will be: Join or Die!

If the majority of voters aren't fed up with Obama and DNC-flavored socialism by 2010 and 2012, the republic as we knew it may be at an end anyway.

28 posted on 05/10/2009 6:15:38 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Ron C.

saving for later


30 posted on 05/10/2009 6:21:46 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: Ron C.
this is a long and ‘windy’ post

Yeah and you think you can just apologize and it will all be okay? you can say what you like and as long as you want with no regard for our feeeelings? Like an apology is some kind of license to abuuuse us? What kind of monster ARE you???

31 posted on 05/10/2009 6:23:02 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: Ron C.
To whom it may concern

Months after "Obama" reveals his FIRST name he reveals the date he will detonate the bomb.

Months after "Obama" reveals his FIRST name (1) he reveals the date he will detonate the bomb. (2)

Notes
(1) "Obama" reveals his FIRST name, October 2008
http://end-times-hoaxes.blogspot.com/2008/10/real-october-surprise-it-was-already.html

(2) Using the anti-bible format. But the question is: will his masters still have enough time to do it?

32 posted on 05/10/2009 6:50:16 AM PDT by VlPu
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To: Ron C.
"It is within this arena that conservatives can effectively block RINO’s from moving higher up the political ladder – by identifying them through personal contact, listening to their conversation, finding out what they believe and would like to see come to pass in future legislation. It is in this arena that you can identify the best – and help promote them toward higher office – and easily stop the worst of the worst.

Our political system and our government are illegitimate. The GOP is controlled by the same elite political class that controls the Democrat party. . "Working within the system" is counterproductive. It diverts resources; it enables the ruling elites to co-opt the forces for change. Freedom will only come from non-violent revolution. Be prepared for the violence and hatred that the political elites will use to protect their hegemony.

Obama's election proves that most Americans value the illusion of comfort over the opportunity to achieve freedom. Don't drown yourself trying to rescue those who have chosen the illusion. They will grab you and try to make your drown along with them.

The question: How do we manage a non-violent revolution that restores freedom to those who are willing to sacrifice for it? The answer is not in the realm of politics.

Mainstream media, pop culture, and consumerism have replaced religion as the opiate of the masses. Freedom and comfort cannot co-exist. Comfort is an illusion, the snake oil that politicians sell, the price of which is your freedom.

You say you want freedom? Turn off your television. Stop buying things.

33 posted on 05/10/2009 6:52:58 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Liberalism is a hate crime that can no longer be tolerated.)
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To: Chris DeWeese; Ron C.
So, when here in Missouri we have a bona-fide conservative upstart star run for the GOP's nomination for Governor and then the part[y] establishment pours its support and money behind one of the establishment DC 'pubbies to insure that no change takes place -that's OUR fault, right?

What Ron C. is saying is: Become the establishment!

Thanks Ron C. for the great post. Must reading for all FReepers.
34 posted on 05/10/2009 7:03:29 AM PDT by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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It is a sign of severe dysfunction when a group savages its own members for heresy instead of turning its attention toward its true enemy.

The real danger to conservatism and the country comes from the leftist Democrats, and not from RINOs or moderate Democrats. Focus on the real enemy!

36 posted on 05/10/2009 7:34:13 AM PDT by expatpat
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The biggest problem, in a general sense (and on a macro level) is that conservatives tend to be : “keep the government out of our lives”. Working in the party is seen, subconsciously, as being part of a political scene that is, for the most part, distasteful.

Again, generally, liberals/democrats are far less worried about embarrassing themselves or being aggressive at the local level or even in the culture.

We have let them take over the Media, the schools and now the government....EVEN THOUGH they are no more than half the population (and really more like 30%) The 40% who are clueless or in the middle could be talked into electing Vince McMahon President (though even he would better than Obama).

I would also say a very overlooked aspect of defining the culture or the political perception is commenting on message boards, talking locally, or on radio or continuously making comments in non political places that redefine the perception.

Eventually the Dems portrayal of Bush, the war, neo-cons etc etc took hold. It took 5-6 years, but it worked.

The drip drip drip of referring to Obama as a socialist, a Neo-Com or Neo Socialist or the like, and coming up with a few catchy representations and repeating them over and over everywhere on the internet, even in comment sections of forums has an effect over time.

Not in a spam way, but in a response.

But until the base gets motivated enough to turn into activists, we are on a slow drift. Bottom line.


37 posted on 05/10/2009 7:37:11 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Chris DeWeese
...but this guy assumes is that we aren't doing that.

How many of us are? I'll bet a very small minority on FR attend meetings or run for/are a delegate in their state GOP. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't think I am or the GOP wouldn't be run by weak-kneed towers of jello.

38 posted on 05/10/2009 7:38:36 AM PDT by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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To: Ron C.

Why is this in Breaking News?


39 posted on 05/10/2009 7:40:25 AM PDT by webschooner
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To: don-o

AMEN, don-o!


40 posted on 05/10/2009 7:40:37 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Pres--dent 0zer0 is a train wreck. DON'T LOOK, ETHEL!)
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