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Dead Woman Gets Federal Stimulus Check
WBAL TV Baltimore ^ | 5/12/09

Posted on 05/12/2009 6:01:16 AM PDT by SES1066

ANNE ARUNDEL, Md. -- Millions of Americans on Social Security are receiving $250 checks as part of the president's stimulus plan -- including an Anne Arundel woman who died more than 40 years ago. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at wbaltv.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: check; dead; democrats; porkulus; socialsecurity; stimulus
Social Security representatives said there is a good explanation. Of the about 52 million checks that have been mailed out, about 10,000 of those have been sent to people who are deceased.

The agency blames the error on the strict mid-June deadline of mailing out all of the checks, which didn't leave officials much time to clean up all of their records.

And we wonder why the liberals think more government is better. I guess that I have to agree that no one can spend MY MONEY with less concern or intelligence than the GOVERNMENT!

1 posted on 05/12/2009 6:01:16 AM PDT by SES1066
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To: SES1066

Stimulating a dead woman is against the law in some places.


2 posted on 05/12/2009 6:03:45 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SES1066

Well, the democrats are just paying off a major voting block.


3 posted on 05/12/2009 6:04:37 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SES1066
The lady in question has been dead for forty years and the Social Security Admin hasn't had time to clean up their records??????
4 posted on 05/12/2009 6:05:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

LOL,, made me smile dangit!!


5 posted on 05/12/2009 6:05:21 AM PDT by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution.)
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To: SES1066

I’m sure some (many?) of these checks will be cashed and the feds will be none the wiser.


6 posted on 05/12/2009 6:05:46 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: SES1066
PS: What really should be notable here is this;
This PROVES that even after 40 years, the Social Security Database still has at least one dead person on it!

When do they propose to actually do their JOB?! Inquiring minds want to KNOW! Bureaucracy at its finest!

7 posted on 05/12/2009 6:05:46 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066
The agency blames the error on the strict mid-June deadline of mailing out all of the checks, which didn't leave officials much time to clean up all of their records.

I agree - 40 years is much too short a window of time to clean up records. They should get at least 100 years.

These are the folks who will be running our health care system.

8 posted on 05/12/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by randita
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To: Rummyfan

Think how many of these checks actually went out to people who are dead—but someone else is collecting in their name—this was just a payoff to some of Obi’s friends.


9 posted on 05/12/2009 6:07:45 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: SES1066
Social Security has always had the "dead guy" problem. Back before direct deposit all the payments went out by check. However, before they could enter the mail Social Security employees working at the Treasury Department check centers would go through the trays of mail pulling checks for people they knew had died since the checks had been printed just moments before.

Still, before those checks could get delivered yet other recpients would die.

With direct deposit there's less of a problem but the government frequently has to go to the heirs to "collect".

Payments to dead people will be recovered.

10 posted on 05/12/2009 6:10:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SES1066

Tip of a multi-billion dollar fraud-laced iceburg courtesy of the Kenyan’s porkulus debacle.


11 posted on 05/12/2009 6:10:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SES1066

this was simply a reward she received for voting for obama in the last election...twice.


12 posted on 05/12/2009 6:12:06 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: SES1066

No surprise here...
Millions of dead head welfare leaches and broodmares have been getting federal checks for decades.....

It is not unusual for the dead heads to recieve these checks over several generations as their only form of income.


13 posted on 05/12/2009 6:12:26 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: luvbach1

The feds know and they collect.


14 posted on 05/12/2009 6:12:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SES1066

Hmmm. 40 years ‘eh? Let’s see; that would mean she voted (at least once) for McGovern, Carter, Dukakis, Mondale, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and “Uh”bama. Did I leave anyone out?


15 posted on 05/12/2009 6:14:21 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: SES1066

Are you stupid. The $250 is needed to pay the acorn worker that has to include this dead citizen in the census in 2010 and include this important person in the voter roles. Wake up, this is change, change voted for last year.


16 posted on 05/12/2009 6:14:32 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: SES1066

I want to know how many elections she voted in since she has passed? If she was getting SS benies and who got them.


17 posted on 05/12/2009 6:15:28 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Fump!)
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To: SES1066

I think that’s a metaphor for the whole stimulus and bailout program.

We’ve been giving billions of dollars to dead companies for months now.


18 posted on 05/12/2009 6:17:20 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Stop the wanton destruction of innocent squirrels!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Where’s “Sheriff” Biden on this?


19 posted on 05/12/2009 6:20:11 AM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: SES1066

WHY NOT??? She voted, after all.


20 posted on 05/12/2009 6:20:22 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity---Yeats)
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To: muawiyah
I do understand the process you are talking about. When my mother died, it took 2 months before her direct deposits got canceled and the money had to be returned to Social Security. Note that this was "Direct Deposit" not mailed check!

Having said this, I find your reply puzzling. Are you excusing a 40 year old error (actually at least 41 years) by this explanation? I am a database programmer and yes I have worked with very large files for private industry (telephone company). If I had an anomaly like this pop-up, I would be in BIG SWEAT because it indicates very bad data POTENTIALLY in the system. Granted a single error can be shrugged but the article indicates "THOUSANDS" of errors are possible. Your explanation of and for recently deceased is logical, this incident is not!

21 posted on 05/12/2009 6:21:43 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: muawiyah

“Payments to dead people will be recovered.”

Hmmm...I have little faith in that. How DO they KNOW someone is dead. IOW...my Aunt Tilley died last week. So I don’t report her death...I just keep receiving and depositing her check?!!!Better yet..I’m 84 years old...so I sell her social security card, bank accounts and all other ID to the 52 year old unemployed woman down the street.....for $35,000.00


22 posted on 05/12/2009 6:24:33 AM PDT by mo
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To: Rummyfan

the dead lady deserves that check, after all she’s been a loyal voting maryland democrat for the past 4 decades


23 posted on 05/12/2009 6:27:33 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: muawiyah
And even with all the technology today, it is hell to prove you are alive if they make a typo and declare you dead ; )
24 posted on 05/12/2009 6:30:23 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: LRS
Did I leave anyone out?

Yes, you are only covering the Presidential races. This was in ANNE ARUNDEL, Md. and while Anne Arundel county is one of the more reliably Republican counties among the heavily-populated suburban and urban counties in the state's Baltimore-Washington corridor, it is still in a heavily Democrat State. So add votes for Senate, House and local races.

Actually, we may be able to credit a non-Democrat for bringing this error to public attention. Do you think a less principled family would do anything other than cashing it and waiting to see if anybody says boo?

25 posted on 05/12/2009 6:31:57 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066

I bet she still votes for democrats!


26 posted on 05/12/2009 6:32:27 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: theKid51; ourusa; Apple Blossom

ping


27 posted on 05/12/2009 6:34:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: b4its2late

My first wife died six years ago, and I get mail, both from the government and private industry for her almost daily.

Give the rate at which it continues to pour in, I suspect in 40 years it will still be coming.


28 posted on 05/12/2009 6:36:18 AM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: MrNeutron1962
I'd encourage you to file a change of address order for her but then you'd be worrying that you missed something important.

Do a google.com search for "how to stop unwanted mail" and that will give you 1.44 million places to look for assistance. I'd try something out of the first dozen or so though.

29 posted on 05/12/2009 6:44:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mo
Just about everybody tries to get rid of the body ~ and that's when they slip up.

This is true in matters of government checks sent to dead people as well as in murder.

SOMEONE ELSE FINDS OUT and that's the end of that. Frequently its a funeral home ~ they NOTIFY OTHERS ~ ALWAYS!!! The emergency rescue crew that came ~ certainly you don't imagine they failed to report something.

Then there are the folks the dead person owed money to ~ they definitely look into these matters.

The ONLY way I've seen anyone evade the authorities is to keep the body in the house, and lead others who knew the dead person to think he or she was still alive but off "visiting". Plus, the dead person must not have had any bills to pay.

30 posted on 05/12/2009 6:49:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SES1066
Yes, errors like this are readily explained. First of all, the death may have been reported, but you encounter the common name, common address in same town phenomenon. It's not unbelievable that you could have two people, same age, same name, pass away in the same town in a short timeframe.

E.G. Pedro Rodriguez probably drops dead several times a day in Queens, NY, and Jesus Gonzales does that in San Juan, PR.

Once the correct person is "deleted" from your data base, then you're done with it, right?

Having worked with Social Security/Treasury people on this problem over the years (which comes up anew with every change in technology), I'm sure at least one case, if not thousands, could exist.

However, the story here is about ONE WOMAN who died 40 years ago, and 10,000 others who died more recently. The 40 year thing is an anamoly. The 10,000 others are simply the normal rate.

Remember, deaths are not reported to Social Security instantaneously yet the checks are continually spat out by the machines.

The only surprise here is yours ~ for the folks who work in the business it's a normal result ~ but they will collect on any funds sent to dead people.

31 posted on 05/12/2009 6:58:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The feds know and they collect.

You may be right but if they didn't know the woman was dead after 40 years why should they know now?

32 posted on 05/12/2009 7:01:52 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: luvbach1
They knew and they deleted her ~

That's why her presence wasn't viewed as an error in the files.

Now that they know she'll be deleted again!

33 posted on 05/12/2009 7:07:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: luvbach1

One thing we don’t know is if this guy has been cashing his dead mother’s regular social security checks all these years. Could be he’s an SSA recipient and his mother was identified as his guardian. That’d leave her in the records until he’s dead.


34 posted on 05/12/2009 7:10:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SES1066; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


35 posted on 05/12/2009 7:17:06 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Stimulating a dead woman is against the law in some places.

I am just contemplating what the late, great Rodney Dangerfield could have done with that line......


36 posted on 05/12/2009 7:18:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SES1066
The agency blames the error on the strict mid-June deadline of mailing out all of the checks, which didn't leave officials much time to clean up all of their records.

...including an Anne Arundel woman who died more than 40 years ago...

If they couldn't get her off the records in 40 years, I don't think a few extra months is going to make a difference. Sheesh

37 posted on 05/12/2009 7:20:14 AM PDT by whd23
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To: muawiyah
There have been several cases I remember reading of in the Cincinnati Ohio newspapers of relatives or roomates cashing Social Security checks for years or even decades.In at least two cases the deceased's body was kept hidden,one in the house!,one secretly buried in the backyard?!That's only the cases that get in the newspapers;many accidents,crimes,unusual events are not reported.

The dead receive benefits that pale compared to the corporate welfare,foreign aid to our enemies,government subsidies to abortion clinics,anti-gun groups,anti-Constitutional organizations,payments to agribusinesses(not farmers),subsidies to economically unsupportable alternate energy programs,etc.,ad nauseum,

38 posted on 05/12/2009 7:25:20 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: SES1066
Anne Arundel county is one of the more reliably Republican counties among the heavily-populated suburban and urban counties in the state's Baltimore-Washington corridor, it is still in a heavily Democrat State

It's been my observation that the dims get desperate in that scenario. Take the district I live in here in KY. We've been a repub stronghold in a dim state for decades, and the dims have tried everything, including trying to Gerrymander us out of existence...

39 posted on 05/12/2009 7:31:57 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: river rat

“welfare leaches and broodmares”

You use the nice animal word. Try using the female dog version instead.


40 posted on 05/12/2009 7:34:21 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: hoosierham

Fur Shur, the dead get away with very little.


41 posted on 05/12/2009 7:34:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SES1066

I am going to buy 2 lbs. of Wagyu steak with my stimulus check.


42 posted on 05/12/2009 8:07:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: MrNeutron1962

Sorry about your loss, and I know what you mean. It just seems like 40 years it would have caught up by now......


43 posted on 05/12/2009 8:08:35 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: windcliff

ping


44 posted on 05/12/2009 8:13:39 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: randita

“These are the folks who will be running our health care system.

Don’t worry. With Obama in charge, adding health care to government’s plate will be no problem. Doncha understand that the only reason Uncle Sam hasn’t had time to update it’s SS files is because it HASN’T had responsibility for 1/7 of the nation’s economy? Once the latter is in place, all past instances of government waste and inefficiency will instantaneously disappear. Obama has it all under control (didn’t you see how cool, calm and collected he was at the WHCA dinner last Saturday?); you just have to trust him!


45 posted on 05/12/2009 9:46:37 AM PDT by DrC
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To: SES1066

The country’s in the very best of hands.


46 posted on 05/12/2009 10:38:27 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: SES1066

She voted for the President. She gets a check.

What’s the problem?


47 posted on 05/12/2009 10:41:14 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SES1066

Where's my stimulus?
48 posted on 05/12/2009 3:47:13 PM PDT by Clear Rivers
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To: SES1066

“I see......stimulus checks...for dead people”


49 posted on 05/15/2009 5:00:51 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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