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To: ken5050; CutePuppy
Thanks for the heads-up.

.........investigations now include investors who "claimed" to be hardest-hit victims, both directly and through their foundations.........

Course, everyone knows that I’m really, r-e-a-l-l-y humble. So I could n-e-v-e-r bring myself to say "I told you so." ROTFL.

WSJ, May 19, 2009, by Amir Efrati
Prosecutors are continuing to probe Madoff family members and employees, but the investigation now includes investors who have claimed to be among the hardest-hit victims of the fraud, both directly and through their foundations. Mr. Madoff pleaded guilty in March and is set to be sentenced in June. Aiding investigators is their discovery that Mr. Madoff was a "meticulous" record keeper who kept correspondence between some clients and the firm, said people familiar with the probe.

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Ut oh---a paper trail. Didn't Madoff's lawyers ever tell him---"never write anything down." LOL. Betcha Madoff's (cough) "investors" are getting real nervous.

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AT WSJ WEB SITE (subscribers' access)

WSJ Video 1: Inside the Madoff Scandal: Chapter One

WSJ Video 2: Chapter Two: Unwinding the Money Trail

Fairfield Is Sued by Madoff Trustee for $3.54 Billion - BL, May 18, 2009

4 posted on 05/19/2009 7:40:33 AM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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WSJ reported Shapiro is one of at least eight Madoff associates targeted .......includes his SIL, Robert Jaffe - a part-time Weston resident who allegedly served as Madoff’s Hub salesman - and accountant Frank Avellino. ..... WSJ said the NY U.S. Atty’s office has uncovered documents suggesting Shapiro and other big Madoff investors knew their returns were fraudulent. and that some players got specific percentage returns that were agreed to in advance. That would suggest investors realized Madoff was running a scam.

HOW'D HE DO THAT? To pull off a $65 billion scheme, the Madoff cabal would have had to involve investors, relatives, associates, co-conspirators (and/or subsets of them), businesses and tax-exempt organizations........all with similar goals.

HUGE RED FLAG Some investors were writing personal checks to Madoff.

It is commonly agreed that Madoff was not investigated b/c within L/E circles it us not advisable to suggest someone of Jewish heritage is doing something illegal---in fact, it is a career killer.

Madoff may have routed his scheme through telephone lines with a maze of complex telecommunications' systems equipped with call-forwarding and voice mail systems, and numerous postal and commercial mail boxes..........and perhaps money-transfer systems that operate in ethnic enclaves and places like NYC's Diamond District.

The "investment" monies could have been disguised (to evade the IRS) by routing through a network of domestic and international bank accounts using counterfeit checks.....opening commercial bank accounts in the name of bogus businesses and wire-transferring and/or depositing "investment" checks into those accounts.

Checks one foundation wrote to another foundation should be scrutinized..... could involve the biggest frauds, in the form of tax evasion, money laundering, etc.

Madoff's phony checks could have had invalid bank routing numbers, forged endorsements, or been drawn on the proceeds of other counterfeit checks deposited in other bank accounts. Before banks discovered the fraud, the funds might have been transferred out of the accounts……probably offshore----leaving banks unable to recoup their losses.

State and federal tax authorities could have been swindled, if the scheme involved filing hundreds of phony tax returns in real or fictitious names, falsely claiming federal EITC credits (meant to benefit low-income earners).

In an international scheme with offshore ties, the Madoff co-conspirators or subsets of them might have obtained hundreds of taxpayer identification numbers for phantom citizens with worldwide addresses, and used the information, along with phony passports, to claim hundreds of bogus tax refunds.

Investigators poring over Madoff's books have discovered he routinely falsified documents in a fraud that could take months to unravel. In a classic fraud MO, Madoff kept two (or more) sets of books. One set keeps track of losses at Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC's (his investment advisory arm), while the other set consisted of "investors" writing Madoff personal checks.

Madoff's methods may have included limited-recourse loans to artificially inflate "asset value," so that he could fraudulently borrow real money based on “assets” that didn’t really exist.

Madoff's Web site claimed the firm was technologically-advanced, however investigations found the firm sent paper confirmations of trades via US mail at the end of each day, rather than providing electronic access to this important information. Paper copies provide a hedge-fund manager with the end-of-the-day ability to manufacture trade tickets that confirm the investment results.

It could be postulated that most of his investors figured Madoff was doing something illegal---Wall Street was whispering Madoff was laundering proceeds from Russian mob activities.

If Madoff was helping gangsters steal, some investors might have figured they could make a profit on the deal.

6 posted on 05/19/2009 7:55:37 AM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: Liz

“through their foundations’ aka tax scams.

My guess is these tax foundations were non-profits where the investment gains were not taxable and the people running the foundations pulled money out that was not taxable or maybe as taxable salaries. My guess is a LOT of their expenses paid with the money. This is how liberals avoid paying taxes.


10 posted on 05/19/2009 8:31:17 AM PDT by Frantzie
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