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I hope he's right but I am doubtful
1 posted on 05/19/2009 11:58:50 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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He is right. "Delayed and Denied," that's "Obamacare," is precisely the message that needs to be hammered.

So this is a test for the GOP as much as it is anyone else. Americans hate and fear even a sense of personal powerlessness more than just about anything else.

2 posted on 05/19/2009 12:03:48 PM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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The problem is we, the people, have no one representing us in the Congress. We are screwed folks. The criminal class in Washington only looks at what they will gain in the next two to six years from Obamacare. It has nothing to do with what the people think, want, or need.
3 posted on 05/19/2009 12:04:12 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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"Barack Obama is making an enormous mistake on the most important initiative of his presidency."

Most important initiative of his Presidency? Huh!?

With his Porkulus, Omnibus Spending Bill and his Budget, Obama has already set us on the road to the bankruptcy of the United States of America. Healthcare is just frosting on the cake.

It's amazes me, how destructive Obama and the Congressional Democrats have been and how little response there has been from the opposition party.

4 posted on 05/19/2009 12:04:40 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama, the American Allende.)
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"Nothing else turns people against the government takeover of healthcare more than the realistic expectation that it will result in delayed and potentially even denied, treatment, procedures and/or medications," Luntz writes.

Since when do liberals deal in facts?

5 posted on 05/19/2009 12:05:06 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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I remain doubtful also but Zero has spent alot of capital in the first 100 days.
His lapdogs will always be there but those in Republican leaning districts in the house have got to be getting very nervous with some of the generic polling coming out.
I pray for an over-reach on this that gets us back within striking distance of the House leadership for 2012.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 12:05:48 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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Why people regard this fool as such a “great communicator” is completely beyond me. It’d be as if you called a guy holding a gun pointed at your head a “great communicator” because you’ve very, very likely to do what he says.


7 posted on 05/19/2009 12:08:02 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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Yet the president, easily the most gifted White House communicator since Ronald Reagan,

"Yet the TOTUS, easily the most gifted White House communicator since Ronald Reagan..."

.....more accurate

8 posted on 05/19/2009 12:08:08 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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Republicans will beat Obama on health care, because they will propose a much better leftist oriented bill that they can get behind. That is the model for what the Republican party has become.


9 posted on 05/19/2009 12:08:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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When liberals talk about “universal health care” they mean

universally RATIONED health care.


10 posted on 05/19/2009 12:14:05 PM PDT by VRWCRick
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My 17 year old son, who leans left, right and center, as the wind blows said he thought that "rationing" healthcare will provoke revolution...

I think he's right.

11 posted on 05/19/2009 12:14:57 PM PDT by demsux
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The trouble is there are not enough Republicans to defeat this or any other initiative from 0bama, regardless the amount of objection made by the American people, if they actually do make some noise.

Rationing is coming -- outright denial, based on age, infirmity, quality of life expectancy is almost guaranteed, they are already discussing this. People who are going to buy the line that they are going to be getting the same health care/treatment that the rich, privileged will be getting are fooling themselves, have paid no attention whatever to how these systems have played out over the centuries all over the world.

This is going to be the ultimate example of "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."

13 posted on 05/19/2009 12:16:49 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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I hope he's right but I am doubtful.

I was listening to him discuss this with Hugh Hewitt. Even Byron was doubtful. He and Hugh agreed that the only way to fight it is to make it clear to Joe Six-Pack the exact impact of this program. He said Michael Steele going on Meet the Press and saying "it's too expensive" will not get it done.

19 posted on 05/19/2009 12:34:38 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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From the article:

But the president continues to talk about cost. It's a trap he's made for himself. Without the savings Obama claims will result from health care reform, the crushing debt of the president's other spending priorities will become unsustainable. He's bet everything on his ability to cut health care costs. If that doesn't work, it all falls apart.

It does not take a genius to figure out that all those uninsured out there that now need coverage will cost a bundle. The Demos made another error when they peg this number at 40M+ when it is most certainly not that high.

The extraordinary cost of government today with $1.8T deficits coupled with this boondoggle along with the press from Canada and Europe about rationing makes those that have coverage VERY nervous. The idea that the government can force a cost reduction is absurd.

It seems the Obambi tripod of health care, energy and education with even greater roles by government in each of these is not gaining much traction. Until the economy regains some stability people are not going to look at this initiatives kindly.

Those Blue Dogs in the House look at the 2010 elections and are VERY worried right now.

schu

21 posted on 05/19/2009 12:45:50 PM PDT by schu
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“timely treatment beat cost almost unanimously.”.....

Hah! The idiots who voted for him should have been asked that question by the media but then again it’s to relevant.
Urkel had to be elected at all costs!


22 posted on 05/19/2009 12:46:59 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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Obama’s initiatives will not be defeated until the republicans take back the house in the next two years. Obama’s objectives are not moderate....he knows he only has two years to socialize this country and he will move at break-neck speed to see it happen ASAP.


23 posted on 05/19/2009 12:47:18 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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First a minor correction:
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Yet the president, easily the most gifted White House communicator con artist since Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton has the message all wrong. [snip]
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There that's better

The title is all wrong too. Republicans won't defeat anything, they're too busy trying to look relevant by being Socialist-lite. The only way this turkey will be defeated is with massive protests like the Tea Partys. If enough people flood their congress critters with calls and emails maybe some of the blue dog democrats will be peeled off. We can only hope.

29 posted on 05/19/2009 1:09:26 PM PDT by YankeeReb (Proverbs 29:2)
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Bull crap. The Republicans are too scared to fight Hussein. Many of them are good men, but they do not want to be targeted by Hussein and his media pit bulls.

Hussein is a thug, and his dogs who sit happily on his lap and lick his face will turn vicious upon any single person who speaks a word against him.

Only the American people, only they can stand up against this nonsense. They can give conservative politicians the cover...but I fear the water is already over the dam.

We will have to be in “recovery” mode in the next decade, if the Republic survives.


30 posted on 05/19/2009 1:15:29 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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31 posted on 05/19/2009 1:25:08 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I have seen absolutely no indication that the Republicans have the ability or desire to defeat this man on anything. If he loses it will be due to blue dog Democrat defections, or some form of incompetence/screw-up/sheer dumb luck


33 posted on 05/19/2009 1:38:03 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Gifted? Communicator?? Don’t anyone ever mention Hitler Jr.’s name anywhere near Ronald Reagan’s. He’s not worthy enough to lick dog poop off Reagan’s shoes. The Muslim Destroyer of America should “never” be compared to Reagan in any way EVER!


43 posted on 05/19/2009 4:34:13 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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