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Sodas a Tempting Tax Target
nyt ^ | May 19, 2009 | DAVID LEONHARDT

Posted on 05/20/2009 12:44:55 PM PDT by Red Steel

Sugar, rum and tobacco are commodities which are nowhere necessaries of life, which are become objects of almost universal consumption, and which are therefore extremely proper subjects of taxation.”

— Adam Smith,

“The Wealth of Nations,” 1776

That quotation, from the great philosopher of capitalism, appeared at the start of an article that ran a few weeks ago in The New England Journal of Medicine. The article argued for taxing Coke, Pepsi, Gatorade, Red Bull and any other sugar-sweetened beverage, largely to combat obesity.

The authors were Kelly Brownell, a longtime obesity researcher at Yale, and Thomas Frieden, the New York City health commissioner. Since the article appeared, President Obama appointed Dr. Frieden to lead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

So one of the nation’s top public health officials is now a fierce proponent of a soda tax. Meanwhile, other Obama advisers and some Senate staff members have been talking about such a tax — which wouldn’t apply to diet soda or real juice — as a way to help pay for expanded health insurance. Among 15 options for paying for health care reform, a new Senate Finance Committee analysis lists a “sugar-sweetened beverage excise tax.”

Coca-Cola and PepsiCo hate this idea, of course, and they’re fighting hard (if quietly) against it. Given the messy politics of tax increases, the industry seems likely to win this time. But the soda tax has already made the journey from unthinkable to plausible. It isn’t too hard to imagine that, some day soon, Congress or a state legislature will see the tax as the least bad way to raise desperately needed revenue.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coke; cola; obama; soda; tax; taxes; theft
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1 posted on 05/20/2009 12:44:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Leave my Diet Coke alone!

2 posted on 05/20/2009 12:47:01 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Red Steel

And if you take sugar in your tea or coffee, what then?

And what stops you from adding a teaspoon of sugar to your diet Coke?


3 posted on 05/20/2009 12:47:54 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Ok..you go to Mcd’s and they must ask you whether you are drinking diet or regular before they give you the cup.
Or will they just equalize the price and say “screw you to the govt?”


4 posted on 05/20/2009 12:48:56 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Red Steel

Keep your filthy politician paws off my Mt. Dew!


5 posted on 05/20/2009 12:49:24 PM PDT by NMR Guy
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To: Red Steel

Adam Smith may have called for a tax on sugar and rum, but in no way would Smith advocate using the proceeds from such a tax to fund a massive governmental takeover of the health system.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 12:51:17 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since 2008)
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To: Red Steel
Great, NYT using historical quotes to justify its stance. How quaint. Please re-send the memo that the NYT is irrelevant, kkthx.
7 posted on 05/20/2009 12:51:35 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Red Steel

A wonder if they realize that most “healthy” fruit juices have more sugar than soda...


8 posted on 05/20/2009 12:52:22 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Red Steel

They’ll get it done...they hit tobacco hard and now they need another target. Not enough people fought back before because it was that nasty tobacco (no I don’t smoke)...now people are conditioned to see this as a health issue too. Sooner or later the gov’t will get to something those people care about and there will no one standing with them either.


9 posted on 05/20/2009 12:53:55 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Red Steel

What isn’t.


10 posted on 05/20/2009 12:54:39 PM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Red Steel

It’s amazing how these libtards never seem to get the fact that when you over-tax anything people reduce their consumption of that thing, resulting in less and less revenue (despite the higher tax rate)from reduced sales. Tobacco is a prime example.


11 posted on 05/20/2009 12:55:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Red Steel
Sodas have C02 as well (for the bubbles), so they'll be subject to the carbon tax.

Hope our young voters enjoy their 'change'.

12 posted on 05/20/2009 12:55:59 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Red Steel
I make my own juice, brew my own tea, make my own candy, and grow many of my vegetables in my own garden.

I'm going as far as I can to get off the grid without going completely off.

13 posted on 05/20/2009 12:57:24 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Red Steel

I was going to do some long diatribe, but I’ll just sum it up with a single question.

What part of the Constitution gives the government the right to do this? Taxing something to discourage its use.

Nothing. The purpose of taxation is to raise revenue. Nothing else. If a tax is levied for any other reason, it is (imho) unconstitutional.


14 posted on 05/20/2009 12:57:53 PM PDT by Brookhaven (The Era of Reagan is NOW)
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To: Red Steel
Thus grows the legendary Mrs. Grundy, the town biddy who wants to control behavior; "for your own good"! There is nothing in life that cannot be taken to the excess - INCLUDING THIS! Social manipulation like this is the start of 'Mama knows best' and continues until there is a knock on your door at 3am with the voice saying; "Food Police - we know you have chocolate in there!"

Ideally taxes are levied for actions and needs that cannot be done by the individual. They SHOULD be only sufficient for the taxing authority to do its job and no more. Taxing to affect human behavior should be STRICTLY AND FOREVER FORBIDDEN!!!

15 posted on 05/20/2009 12:58:32 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Red Steel

They are already taxed, through a sales tax.


16 posted on 05/20/2009 12:59:26 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Red Steel

Oh, diet soda is proven good? What about sugar in all other products? Shouldn’t that be taxed as well? Since I only weigh 112 lbs., can I get a tax exemption? If I don’t get some calories somewhere, I’ll disappear. Then they won’t get the taxes I already pay.

What the hell is wrong with these people?!!!


17 posted on 05/20/2009 1:06:26 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Reread the article. Your diet soda is safe.

Which is ironic since I never met a heavy person who didn’t drink diet soda.


18 posted on 05/20/2009 1:07:10 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: NMR Guy
"Keep your filthy politician paws off my Mt. Dew!

That gets taxed twice because of the extra high caffeine content.

19 posted on 05/20/2009 1:09:59 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Red Steel

lets tax newspapers, college tuition and government (public) schools too. We can add condoms, rainbow flags and comfortable wymens shoes :)


20 posted on 05/20/2009 1:12:42 PM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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